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Facing Tough Senate Race, Montana G.O.P. Looks to Change the Rules
New York Times ^ | 4/14/23 | Nick Corasaniti

Posted on 04/14/2023 5:30:28 AM PDT by cotton1706

HELENA, Mont. — Republicans typically cry foul when accused of rewriting election laws to benefit their candidates. But as the Montana legislature debates a new voting bill, even some GOP lawmakers concede that this one appears designed to help them win elections — more precisely, one very important election.

The bill would rewrite the rules for the state’s next U.S. Senate race and only that race. The 2024 fight to oust Senator Jon Tester, a Democrat, is expected to be one of the tightest in the country.

The legislation would shift the contest from a traditional election into a “top two” primary system, making it exceedingly difficult for third parties to reach a general election ballot. Some believe the system would keep the state’s vibrant Libertarian Party from siphoning votes from the Republican nominee.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: elections; mt
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To: Levy78

I grew up here, left for Portland in the late 1990s after graduating from MSU, and just returned last year because Portland has finally been destroyed and I wanted to get back with people whose politics align with mine. Loving it back in eastern MT.


21 posted on 04/14/2023 6:28:16 AM PDT by MTBobcat (The “rank-and-file” are as corrupted as their leadership.)
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To: KC Burke
"The bill would rewrite the rules for the state’s next U.S. Senate race and only that race."
22 posted on 04/14/2023 6:31:15 AM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor

Even most of Europe has changed their voting rules. Voted ID required.
Wow something so simple could save a nation.


23 posted on 04/14/2023 6:35:31 AM PDT by 9422WMR (45 1. Lie, cheat, steal. It’s how the democRATS operate. )
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To: MTBobcat

Based on your name, sounds like we’re neighbors. Between the hunting, fishing and raising kids in something that resembles the America I grew up in, MT is the best place I’ve ever lived. I’m maybe a few years younger than you and as I said in the other post, I know lots of folks who fled the big cities for MT.


24 posted on 04/14/2023 6:37:00 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: griswold3

California doesn’t have ranked choice voting for state or federal offices. A few municipalities have it.

In Alaska, what it demonstrated is that a lot of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents would prefer a Democrat to Sarah Palin. It’s not the system’s fault that they feel that way.


25 posted on 04/14/2023 6:41:25 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: Pajamajan

Top 2 is not ranked choice. Very different animals.


26 posted on 04/14/2023 6:48:32 AM PDT by JstABrdPstr
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To: Levy78

Do they have any stores up there? A movie theater? Or any entertainment at all. Unless you are outdoorsy, they don’t have much to do? I heard no internet or cable. I guess working the farms doesn’t allow time for much else. The mail comes how often? Every three weeks? I just can’t imagine. But that’s why I’m in Florida.


27 posted on 04/14/2023 6:53:50 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Levy78

Bozeman???


28 posted on 04/14/2023 6:56:31 AM PDT by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: napscoordinator

Either you left odd the sarc/ tag or are a complete moron.


29 posted on 04/14/2023 7:02:26 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: BBB333

odd = off


30 posted on 04/14/2023 7:03:37 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: napscoordinator

Is this satire?

I live in the fastest growing city under 100k people in the USA. Movie theatre, Whole Foods, major university with 18k enrollment, tons of hip bars and restaurants.

Yes, if you aren’t into skiing, fly fishing, camping, hunting, hiking, ice fishing - then you’re in the wrong place and not taking advantage of what MT has to offer.

Yes, mail is slow… maybe 2 drops a week. Perfect… that’s means I’m just enough off the grid.

I don’t know a single farm worker. Everyone I know works in finance, has a remote tech job, is some sort of professional, etc.

I’ve lived all over the country…. Montana has the most ‘normal’ people of anywhere in the country in my experience.


31 posted on 04/14/2023 7:08:39 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: cotton1706

While I agree in theory that this is a bad idea, we are at the “whatever it takes” point. I am tired of playing by the Marques of Queensbury rules while the Dems rig the outcomes of elections.


32 posted on 04/14/2023 7:12:03 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (The “only Trumpers” are just as damaging to the conservative cause as are the “never Trumpers”)
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To: goodnesswins

Yes.


33 posted on 04/14/2023 7:12:35 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: Levy78

Boy I believe this years snow will send a few packing’ back home to wherever they came from...

We had a 3’ snow during Christmas in ‘96 here in Bozeman and I recall 20” on Easter morning in the late 80’s — hard to get to church that day!

Always nice to know there are a few FReepers here in the Bozone!


34 posted on 04/14/2023 7:19:20 AM PDT by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: cotton1706

“top two” primary system, sounds like only two parties get to hold a primary. Doesn’t sound like ranked choice or jungle primary.


35 posted on 04/14/2023 7:39:38 AM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: BBB333

Yeah! It won’t stop this year! The storm a few weeks ago was something… I got 20” down here off south third. I know two families, both who moved last summer from California, who are moving back due to the weather! Hopefully the smoke will be much less this year as a result.


36 posted on 04/14/2023 7:40:16 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: griswold3

It’s bad when they do it, but good when we do it, according to some.


37 posted on 04/14/2023 7:56:27 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Republican in occupied CA

Dems crying, ‘Don’t throw me on that thar briar patch!’


38 posted on 04/14/2023 8:07:39 AM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness ; Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: cotton1706

This is not ranked voting, simply the top two vote getters move to the runoff. I don’t think this race to replace the Democrat will be as tough as the Times would like to think.


39 posted on 04/14/2023 8:10:27 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: cotton1706

“It’ll fix the Tester problem, from getting him off the November ballot, and slipping into office again.”

Tester is in no way, shape or form going to be “off the November ballot” unless he decides to retire.

Anyone hyperventilating over the prospect of 2 Republicans and 0 Democrats (or vice versa) being on the ballot are completely delusional. As are those who are in a panic by thinking this new law would somehow equate to Rigged Choice Voting.


40 posted on 04/14/2023 8:56:29 AM PDT by PermaRag (Joo Biden is not my President)
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