Posted on 03/24/2023 3:44:53 AM PDT by dennisw
The U.S. National Security Council spokesman has suggested the best way for Moscow's tankers to avoid the British depleted uranium munitions being sent to Ukraine would be to retreat back across the border.
London announced on Monday that it would send depleted uranium tank rounds—which are particularly effective in piercing enemy armor—along with the Challenger 2 main battle tanks being provided for Kyiv's use. The news touched off a furious reaction in Russia, where President Vladimir Putin falsely equated the munitions to nuclear weapons.
NSC spokesman John Kirby on Wednesday dismissed the Kremlin's concerns about the depleted uranium munitions during a briefing with journalists.
"And if that's really the concern—if the Russians are very concerned about their tanks staying fully operational—they can just take them across the border back into Russia and take them out of Ukraine; they don't belong there in the first place. That would be my recommendation if they're concerned about threats to their tanks."
Depleted uranium rounds are 70 percent denser than lead, producing significantly more kinetic energy. On contact with armor, parts of the rounds sheer off and self-sharpen, making their passage more deadly to tankers inside armored vehicles. Smaller than lead alternatives with the same mass, depleted uranium rounds have less aerodynamic drag and can hit targets at longer ranges. They are also inherently incendiary.
"It's going to be a bad day for Russian tankers when they meet the depleted uranium munitions, because there's simply nothing they can do to defend themselves against those," Mark Voyger—a former special adviser for Russian and Eurasian affairs to ex-commanding general of U.S. Army Europe Ben Hodges—told Newsweek.
"No Russian tank, as far as I know, can withstand such a hit," Voyger—now a non-resident senior fellow at Center for European Analysis and professor at American University of Kyiv—added.
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Time for peace agreement, right now. Halt this madness.
I should have read the thread before commenting. It seems I interrupted another early morning wargasm.
What are these “depleted uranium bombs” you speak of? Do you mean the sabot projectile that does not explode at all? Someone could beat one on the pavement all day and it wouldn’t do anything.
Pro Nato? You have no idea what they’ve even done in the last few decades clearly.
How long did you serve?
It has always been about the bordering states of Russia, the former Soviet States.
Russia didn’t have an issue when Poland, Romania, Czech Republic, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovakia, and Slovenia joined NATO.
The issue has ALWAYS been when nations like Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, joined in 2004 and with our attempts in the Republic of Georgia (2008) and Ukraine (2014 and 2021).
One quick question. What is your view if China (PRC) were to build and base military personnel in Mexico?
What did we do in the Cuban Missile Crisis when the Soviets wanted to base missiles there?
Why did we invade Grenada (1983) when the Soviets were having a runway built there which could accommodate strategic bombers?
Can you say “hypocrite?”
True, once former parts of the Soviet Union started joining, things changed.
https://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/opinions_layman/depleted-uranium/en/index.htm Depleted Uranium It is used in armour-piercing shells and bombs, to give them more penetrating power. Such munitions were used in both Gulf Wars and in Serbia and Kosovo. Their ... Stick to molesting the livestock farmerbob.
So these clowns think that Russia is just going to freely let those rounds be delivered? or tanks...or ammo...or artillery....or missles..or aircraft maintenance?
If anything, this opens up all roads/rail/air traffic to free fire zone for Russians. Any collection of logistics including medical supplies are going to be attacked.
Why is everyone itching to start WW3?
Yes, you are an expert on being stupid.
Can you provide the alphanumeric designation for a depleted uranium BOMB or an image? I have only heard of it being used as a penetrator.
You must have a reading comprehension problem. Adult onset ADHD? I already said that you supported the Bushy war in Iraq 2003. So did 90% at FR. Take your meds.
"ADHD medications reduce a child’s hyperactivity and impulsivity and improve attention span, as well as the ability to focus, work, and learn."
But I didn't support that war. And I never voted for a Bush. Please try and understand that you Neocon Dimwit.
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/du.htm
This site lists only sabot/jacketed penetrators. There are 3 mines listed but they only use DU as a commercial hardening agent in curing the plastic housing. I didn’t see any BOMBS listed.
Is https://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/opinions_layman more accurate than www.globalsecurity.org?
You asked a question thinking you had the edge, I answered with a simple fact. Stop trying to weasel out of it.
I’m not trying to weasel out of it. The fact is there is no such thing as a “Depleted Uranium BOMB”. Your answer, as usual is inaccurate and worthless. Prove me wrong.
Exactly. Don’t forget hanging Vitoria Neuland.
I already did. You just don't like it.
You’re retarded...
“supported the Bushy war in Iraq 2003. So did 90% at FR.”
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That’s only because anyone who didn’t was banned and were forced to move on to other conservative forums.
Also I think we just didn’t want to agree with Democrats, back when we actually thought there was a difference between the two parties.
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