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Billionaire investor Mark Mobius says he cannot take money out of China
Reuters (via MSN.com) ^ | 05 March 2023

Posted on 03/05/2023 5:55:44 AM PST by zeestephen

Billionaire investor Mark Mobius told FOX Business he cannot take his money out of China due to the country's capital controls, cautioning investors to be "very, very careful" about investing in an economy under a tight government grip..."I have an account with HSBC in Shanghai. I can't take my money out"..."They say: give us all the records from 20 years of how you made this money...This is crazy."

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To: rb22982

Yep. The dollar is crap, but everything else is crap on a crap sandwich.


21 posted on 03/05/2023 6:40:05 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: zeestephen

The Mobius problem is symptomatic of the fluid situation in China.

Banks are failing and have failed. Depoisters all over the country for months now have been unable to access the money on deposit. Massive protests disrupted by police have had no effect. The deposited money is just gone.

China is in extreme economic distress


22 posted on 03/05/2023 6:41:52 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: zeestephen

My belief is that China is about to collapse. I think there are many indicators that this is going to happen sooner than later.

They are putting hard limits on what can be removed so that, when it collapses, the party leaders can take the money and run.


23 posted on 03/05/2023 6:44:58 AM PST by Jonty30 (THE URGE TO SAVE THE WORLD IS ALMOST ALWAYS AN URGE TO RULE IT)
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To: zeestephen

” . . . This is crazy.”

Wrong pronoun. Try “I” is crazy.


24 posted on 03/05/2023 6:45:17 AM PST by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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To: ARW
Do they track $600 transactions?

+10

There is indeed a difference between "You made it here, you spend it here." and "You make even the smallest move with it and we get a piece of it."

Perhaps it turns on the inclinations of the authoritarians who happen to be ruling.

25 posted on 03/05/2023 6:46:57 AM PST by frog in a pot (A community can offer lasting prosperity only if it holds its members accountable.)
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To: aquila48
Can we take money out of the US?

Yes, sort of - but if we earn money in another country the US taxes us on it which no other civilized nation on Earth does to its citizens. Thank Obama and the Democrats for that FATCA absurdity in 2010.

I think a lot of dumbass Republicans who backed it thought they were fighting terrorist money laundering. Most of the anti-freedom bills over the past decades have been sold as national security enhancements.

26 posted on 03/05/2023 6:50:00 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: zeestephen

It’s almost like no one ever warns it this might happen.


27 posted on 03/05/2023 6:51:18 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Macoozie
Re: "Tough Shiite Mobius. Should have kept your money here (USA)."

Mobius was born in the USA and is a USA citizen.

However, his father is German and his mother is Puerto Rican, and Mobius lived in Developing Countries for much of his professional life.

Mobius moved to Germany when he retired about 10 years ago.

28 posted on 03/05/2023 6:52:14 AM PST by zeestephen (43,000)
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To: zeestephen

Mark Mobius doesn’t need to take his money out of China. He’ll “trade” it with someone who doesn’t mind keeping it there.


29 posted on 03/05/2023 6:54:38 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: zeestephen

And he’s just now figuring this out?


30 posted on 03/05/2023 6:59:41 AM PST by Fish Speaker (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Oh, and, "Let's Go Brandon!")
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To: zeestephen

I guess it does not take a lot of gray matter to make a whole lot of spending money.

Why would he think he could remove capital from China? Moron.


31 posted on 03/05/2023 6:59:46 AM PST by Kenny500c ( )
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To: zeestephen

Mobius might have billions, but the Chinese have a military.


32 posted on 03/05/2023 7:01:59 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: Kenny500c
Re: "Why would he think he could remove capital from China? Moron."

Probably because he did business in China for forty years and has always been on good terms with the Communist Party.

33 posted on 03/05/2023 7:13:23 AM PST by zeestephen (43,000)
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To: ARW

China isn’t just tracking it, they won’t let you use it or move it around. In this digital day and age, I think most folks have long since got over the fact that its easy for banks, government and big retailers like Walmart and Target know more about you than your family and friends (and they do)


34 posted on 03/05/2023 7:17:16 AM PST by rb22982
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To: LS

Exactly


35 posted on 03/05/2023 7:18:23 AM PST by rb22982
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To: zeestephen

Moron Mark Mobius - communists want it all so they can re-distribute it. They would not be communists otherwise.


36 posted on 03/05/2023 7:26:41 AM PST by Kenny500c ( )
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To: zeestephen

China’s economy is highly likely to collapse by mid to late summer, they know if and they know there will be a massive civil war when it does

Expect they’ll go after Taiwan, Siberia or something major to distract and head off that first


37 posted on 03/05/2023 7:28:19 AM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: rb22982

How about a Global Sovereign Debt collapse? How long can they hold that off?


38 posted on 03/05/2023 7:28:29 AM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness ; Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: griswold3

In a fiat system, thats more or less impossible for the Dollar, Euro, Yuan, at least. It could lead to runaway inflation, which would effectively pay off all existing debts. Either way, I’d say longer than any of us would ever imagine. I didn’t think they’d be able to “right the ship” in 2008 or 2009 back when the central bank didn’t intervene as often. Today the central banks have no issues throwing trillions into the economy in a matter of months (hence the inflation today)


39 posted on 03/05/2023 7:31:44 AM PST by rb22982
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To: devere

Right about CO2 being plant fertilizer.

A real climate crisis would be a decrease in O2 levels (around 20% now).


40 posted on 03/05/2023 7:39:32 AM PST by Kenny500c ( )
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