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Mass transit is dying in cities around the country
Hotair ^ | 01/11/2023 | John Sexton

Posted on 01/11/2023 9:18:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Yesterday the Wall Street Journal had a story about a topic I’ve covered before, the hollowing out of American cities as a result of changes brought on by the pandemic. One symptom of those changes is the decline of mass transit in major cities on both coasts.

While offices have largely reopened and travel has resumed, many commuters are only coming in a few days a week. That shift has left subways, buses and commuter trains operating at well below capacity—particularly on Mondays and Fridays…

The ridership drop also has fueled an increase in transit crime, which in turn has pushed away more riders.

“The more you lose a ridership base, the more difficult it becomes to maintain a level of service that people are used to,” said P.S. Sriraj, director of the Urban Transportation Center at the University of Illinois, Chicago. “It’s becoming a vicious cycle.”…

New York’s subway system has regained about two-thirds of its pre-pandemic ridership with about 91 million trips in November, according to the MTA. But that is about 50 million fewer rides than in November 2019. Officials worry usage has stalled out at that level.

In San Francisco, the Bay Area Rapid Transit, or BART, recorded 3.7 million trips in November—a little more than one-third of the ridership before Covid.

For the moment, these subway systems are surviving on federal money (about $69 billion) which was doled out in 2020 and 2021 as part of various COVID response bills. But that money is running out now and will be cone in another couple years. Even before that happens some system like the MTA are running a deficit. Very soon these big cities will have to make some choices about how many trains and how large a system they can continue to operate given the current ridership.

For BART, federal funds are expected to run out in 2025, after which it projects a budget gap of more than $200 million. The authority plans to seek a new funding stream. Without it, the shortfall could trigger service reductions. One planning document shows BART would need to cut the number of train lines to three, from the current five, to break even.

Cutting lines and reducing the number of trains will help balance budgets temporarily but the reason administrators haven’t taken these steps yet is because they know it will also result in fewer riders. It’s the vicious cycle again which will only prompt the need for further cuts.

Some cities are considering alternative funding mechanisms. In New York there’s a new congestion tax being aimed at drivers in Manhattan who want to go south of Central Park. In Washington, DC the city will be offering free bus rides starting next summer in hopes of bringing ridership back up. It may work long term but in the short term DC is looking at spending $42 million to cover the costs.

The other problem driving the decline in ridership is crime and, in particular, homelessness. The MTA in New York surveyed riders and found that 60% said they were riding less because of fear of crime.

Lori Romeo, a lawyer who lives in Brooklyn and works in downtown Manhattan, said she rarely goes to her office anymore and takes an express bus instead of the subway when she does.

“The homeless are sad, but the floridly psychotic and dangerous make going into Manhattan a challenging experience,” she said.

One of the more depressing statistics in the recently released crime figures in New York City was that crime on the subways was up 30% this year despite an expensive effort ($20 million per month) to reduce it. It’s not all bad news though. In Chicago, mass transit crime has started to decline for the first time since the start of the pandemic.

On the trains, crime and arrest trends have troubled some riders, like Sam Bergman, 22. He now avoids taking the train after becoming entangled in what looked to him like a mugging that spilled over into the Red Line car he was riding in one evening at the end of October.

What seemed like a fight in the next train car burst through the emergency exit door into his car, Bergman said. One person looked clearly beaten up, and seemed to be trying to call 911. In the tumult, Bergman and his girlfriend got shoved into a corner of the car, but managed to avoid getting hit, he said.

None of these problems are going away anytime soon. Office workers will continue working from home and the homeless will continue using the trains as a moving bedroom and sometimes bathroom. It’s hard to see how the situation that existed pre-pandemic is ever going to return. Instead we’re headed for a new normal, one where mass transit and retail downtown are less important than they used to be.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Georgia; US: Illinois; US: New York
KEYWORDS: anarchotyranny; bart; bayarea; bloggers; cities; crime; decline; dystopia; fakenews; marta; masstransit; newsforumabuse; notnews; rapidtransit; sanfrancisco; unsafe
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1 posted on 01/11/2023 9:18:11 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If it can’t make a profit the demand isn’t high enough.

Sorry guyz

As for reducing crime try locking up and executing appropriately felons instead of unleashing them upon us we are safer in our cars.


2 posted on 01/11/2023 9:25:30 PM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Long overdue. Mass transit only survives where there are no alternatives and as these cities fall farther into decline, the mass transit systems are just rolling hives of scum and villainy.


3 posted on 01/11/2023 9:25:34 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Persevero

It can, but government needs to get out of the way. Instead, it operates it and shuts out the private sector via draconian regulations.


4 posted on 01/11/2023 9:30:20 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Most cities in decline do not have such systems.


5 posted on 01/11/2023 9:30:47 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Yesterday the Wall Street Journal …
Stopped reading right there.
6 posted on 01/11/2023 9:31:28 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SeekAndFind

I used to enjoy driving to Mets Stadium and taking a train into Manhattan.

Ever since Bernie Goetz provided Social Justice, I gave up NYC all together.

Let Eric Adams fix the place.


7 posted on 01/11/2023 9:32:44 PM PST by Paladin2
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RE: Ever since Bernie Goetz provided Social Justice, I gave up NYC all together.

That was before Rudy Giuliani turned New York into one of America’s safest city! ( yes, eventually ruined by Bill De Blasio, but still, we had 20 years of good times)


8 posted on 01/11/2023 9:38:44 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberalism destroys everything. Their precious mass transit to force us out of our cars and into cattle cars to push us into the ghettos to save their stupid precious climate, stop spreading out into suburbs etc, has completely backfired, now we can live more free out in the country and away from their degenerate existence. Idiot corporations insisting on inner city locations to mass transit their minions will have to come up with another plan. Maybe stop supporting dems. Everything they do, touch, try results in death, destruction, misery,


9 posted on 01/11/2023 9:41:39 PM PST by pghbjugop
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To: SeekAndFind

BART in SF was built in 1972. The new cars lack seats and requires passengers to stand. The low IQ freaks in the cars are repulsive to families and professionals. Sad. BART was enjoyable in the 1980’s and 90’s when families, professionals and bike messengers crowded together.


10 posted on 01/11/2023 9:44:57 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: Olog-hai
Most cities in decline do not have such systems.

Mass transit includes buses and light rail, both of which are no-go zones in these declining cities.

Subways, like New York City, while less common, are also in decline.

11 posted on 01/11/2023 9:46:36 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: SeekAndFind
Blaming the crime on NYC subways on COVID is a mile high pile of BALONEY. It's the no-bail/no-jail idiocy voted in by the squad of morons known as the City Council. It is responsible for even multiply arrested felons to be turned loose as soon as they're booked, 'cos "black people can't afford bail". To someone with a completely formed brain, the solution would be obvious: don't commit the crime and then, gee, you don't have to come up with bail money. But libtard politicians don't process that way--they have to scrupulously legislate every tiny detail. So you have lowlifes now assaulting people waiting on subways or buses, assaulting people already on the subway or bus, even people just walking down the street and NOTHING HAPPENS TO THEM. They are turned loose in a jiffy to go and do it again to someone else. That this has resulted in the deaths of innocent citizens doesn't seem to matter to DA Bragg and the other Soros-bought-off DAs around the country. So it has become very dangerous to use mass transit; thus, the number of patrons is falling.

But trying to use COVID as an excuse for falling numbers of mass transit patrons is, as I said, a bunch of baloney.

12 posted on 01/11/2023 9:49:46 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: SeekAndFind
The Covid lockdown accelerated the decline of large urban centers. Companies have figured out how to get work done with teleworking. The need for large offices and mass transit in the cities has been greatly reduced.

People are now used to telework and are fiercely resisting having to go back into the office.

13 posted on 01/11/2023 9:49:52 PM PST by rllngrk33 (It seems the soap box and ballot box have failed, it might be time for the bullet box.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Funny how government programs become an end in themselves.

Their “problem” is that people don’t want to use Mass Transit, so it will be harder to fund.

How is that a problem? Fewer train cars/busses, fewer employees, less wear and tear on infrastructure can mean less cost as well as less revenue.


14 posted on 01/11/2023 9:51:32 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth? (Luke 18:8))
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To: rllngrk33

Rampant crime in the cities and mass transit doesn’t help either.


15 posted on 01/11/2023 9:52:09 PM PST by rllngrk33 (It seems the soap box and ballot box have failed, it might be time for the bullet box.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I rode mass transit for 15 years in HK. I cannot blame anyone for not wanting to use it an HK is a far safer city and the system is much cleaner than the counterparts in US cities.


16 posted on 01/11/2023 9:55:33 PM PST by Fai Mao (Stop feeding the beast, and steal its food!)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Rolling hives of scum and villainy ?

Nonsense.

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17 posted on 01/11/2023 9:57:38 PM PST by Mears (.)
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To: T.B. Yoits

I fly into Atlanta frequently to see family, who are arrayed in the suburbs north of the city. Years ago, the kids would say - “take MARTA and we’ll pick you up at X station”. Today we refuse to visit unless they pick us up at the airport. Too many scary encounters, winos spilling liquids on you as you ride, rapster thugs making noise and being rude. Fuhgeddaboudit. I’ll never ride that mess again.


18 posted on 01/11/2023 9:58:24 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: SeekAndFind

The so-called “central planners” fumbled that one, no?


19 posted on 01/11/2023 10:13:08 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I JUST re-watched "The Sting" after about 20 years, and being a native Bostonian, the 1930's Chicago setting was OH! so reminiscent of my early Boston days and mass transit.

I'm 75 and my old Boston is gone.

The Sting was a nice reminder.

20 posted on 01/11/2023 10:14:02 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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