Posted on 01/10/2023 10:36:50 PM PST by NoLibZone
Here is the study. The abstract is below.
Here is a quick summary of the some of study’s principle flaws, in no particular order:
It’s not actual research on children. It is a meta-analysis of previously published (and ignored) studies — a study of otherwise unpersuasive studies. The authors did a literature search for previous epidemiologic studies on gas stoves and asthma in kids and then just mixed those results together in an effort to contrive statistical significance. This is a bogus technique for a number of reasons including publications bias in the component studies — i.e., studies with null results aren’t published. The study results, including the component studies, are weak statistical associations — i.e., noise range correlations. The study results, likely including the component studies, are not statistically significant either. Asthma is an allergic disease.
There are no allergens in natural gas.
So the study has no biological plausibility.
No one knows what causes asthma in children and so competing causes could not be ruled out.
The claim that gas stoves are responsible for 12% of childhood asthma – an epidemioogic concept called “attributable risk” – is entirely bogus because epidemiological studies can only be used to associated exposures with disease. They cannot be used to determine risk of disease because (1) the underlying data is not representative of the population; and (2) epidemiologic studies cannot be used by themselves to determine cause-and-effect relationships.
If none of that means anything to you. you need to read “Junk Science Judo: Self-defense Against health Scare and Scams.”
Back in the 90s, Ct used asthma as a key reason to close six coal powered plants. They were called the sooty six. In a few years electric costs doubled. Of course there was no follow up studies to measure the closings on asthma. Claiming asthma as a side effect of natural gas is just emotional blackmail. Who wants to choke kids.
“In a sane world, this would boomerang on them and they would be thrown out of government for the next 200 years. “
In a sane world they’d be Che’d.
The lead authors of the original article both work for a nonprofit that lobbies for replacing everything with electric power. That’s all this is, another whack at making us all buy electric stoves and eventually heat pumps.
“ There’s no doubt we are in Obama’s third term. They’ve been working to destroy American since January 2009.”
No doubt. I call them the Rainbow-flag Cartel Party (RCP).
They may be making the transition to Harris.
Obama’s 4th term.
like 80, 000 dollar electric cars what average household will be able to afford an electrical upgrade to support an electric stove. They want control at all levels and they know most will not be able to attain it or afford it and that’s to bad for you
“a nonprofit that lobbies for replacing everything with electric power”
And they’ll dumb down education to the point where kids won’t know how to control fire to get heat. Just flip a switch.
No plasma for your asthma?
If ever there was a mundane issue that exemplifies the Communist’s insatiable thirst for power and control over people and everything, it is turning the gas stove into contraband.
I'll see your oven and stovetop, and raise you a gas furnace and water heater (no gas clothes dryer, though).
That gas stove saved our asses during the "big Texas freeze" when the windmills froze. Had to light it with a match, but it kept us somewhat warm when the electricity failed (couldn't run the gas furnace without electric power to the blower).
This is the same kind of trash that led to CARB rules in California and the determined ‘fact’ that diesel particulate matter from trucks causes cancer. My understanding is that any particulate matter could cause cancer. You know, like forest fires or homeless polluting the streets. Where’s that study?
If we could only ban idiots and those who support them.
The entire western world mandated people mask up and stand no closer than six feet apart because some 12 year-old’s science fair project hypothesized that exhaled particulates fall to the ground at the magic six foot mark.
So, yes, this “study” will be used ruthlessly to deprive us of everything carbonated.
Not crazy.
Evil.
Senator Scott Wiener
@Scott_Wiener
Gas stoves are toxic to people’s health. They cause asthma in children, cardiac problems & other disease. They need to be phased out.
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The US Consumer Product Safety Commission says a ban on gas stoves is on the table amid rising concern about harmful indoor air pollutants emitted by the appliances.
https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-09/us-safety-agency-to-consider-ban-on-gas-stoves-amid-health-fears?srnd=green&sref=Vi7wu7Hv
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3:50 PM · Jan 9, 2023
The author is a CA state senator.
Any correlation between gas stoves and asthma is likely because gas lines are generally in urban areas. It is too expensive to run underground gas lines to rural areas. Urban areas also have higher level of particulate pollution from vehicles, construction, and industry. The studies, if they show correlation, are the same as the studies that showed higher incidence of cancer near power lines. There is more cancer near power lines because there are more people near power lines.
You’re preaching to the converted. :-)
The solution to the gas stove flap is to eliminate Richard Trumka.
Like his terrorist father, Richard is a blight on the American soul
Not true. I grew up in a VERY rural area of south Louisiana. Gas transmission lines serving individual homes were run along highway/road rights of way in the 1960's. We converted our propane central furnace to run on natgas at that time.
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