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No, new study does not link gas stoves with asthma in children
Junk Science ^ | Junk Science Staff

Posted on 01/10/2023 10:36:50 PM PST by NoLibZone

Here is the study. The abstract is below.

Here is a quick summary of the some of study’s principle flaws, in no particular order:

It’s not actual research on children. It is a meta-analysis of previously published (and ignored) studies — a study of otherwise unpersuasive studies. The authors did a literature search for previous epidemiologic studies on gas stoves and asthma in kids and then just mixed those results together in an effort to contrive statistical significance. This is a bogus technique for a number of reasons including publications bias in the component studies — i.e., studies with null results aren’t published. The study results, including the component studies, are weak statistical associations — i.e., noise range correlations. The study results, likely including the component studies, are not statistically significant either. Asthma is an allergic disease.

There are no allergens in natural gas.

So the study has no biological plausibility.

No one knows what causes asthma in children and so competing causes could not be ruled out.

The claim that gas stoves are responsible for 12% of childhood asthma – an epidemioogic concept called “attributable risk” – is entirely bogus because epidemiological studies can only be used to associated exposures with disease. They cannot be used to determine risk of disease because (1) the underlying data is not representative of the population; and (2) epidemiologic studies cannot be used by themselves to determine cause-and-effect relationships.

If none of that means anything to you. you need to read “Junk Science Judo: Self-defense Against health Scare and Scams.”


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KEYWORDS: biden; cooking; electric; energy; gas; gasovend; gasstoves
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To: NoLibZone

Back in the 90s, Ct used asthma as a key reason to close six coal powered plants. They were called the sooty six. In a few years electric costs doubled. Of course there was no follow up studies to measure the closings on asthma. Claiming asthma as a side effect of natural gas is just emotional blackmail. Who wants to choke kids.


21 posted on 01/11/2023 12:11:15 AM PST by DeplorablePaul
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“In a sane world, this would boomerang on them and they would be thrown out of government for the next 200 years. “

In a sane world they’d be Che’d.


22 posted on 01/11/2023 12:25:10 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: NoLibZone

The lead authors of the original article both work for a nonprofit that lobbies for replacing everything with electric power. That’s all this is, another whack at making us all buy electric stoves and eventually heat pumps.


23 posted on 01/11/2023 1:42:22 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“ There’s no doubt we are in Obama’s third term. They’ve been working to destroy American since January 2009.”

No doubt. I call them the Rainbow-flag Cartel Party (RCP).

They may be making the transition to Harris.


24 posted on 01/11/2023 2:07:44 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

Obama’s 4th term.


25 posted on 01/11/2023 3:02:43 AM PST by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearhheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: NoLibZone

like 80, 000 dollar electric cars what average household will be able to afford an electrical upgrade to support an electric stove. They want control at all levels and they know most will not be able to attain it or afford it and that’s to bad for you


26 posted on 01/11/2023 3:22:08 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: hinckley buzzard

“a nonprofit that lobbies for replacing everything with electric power”

And they’ll dumb down education to the point where kids won’t know how to control fire to get heat. Just flip a switch.


27 posted on 01/11/2023 3:38:18 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: NoLibZone

No plasma for your asthma?


28 posted on 01/11/2023 3:46:10 AM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: NoLibZone

If ever there was a mundane issue that exemplifies the Communist’s insatiable thirst for power and control over people and everything, it is turning the gas stove into contraband.


29 posted on 01/11/2023 3:47:20 AM PST by iontheball
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To: DoughtyOne
"My home has a gas oven and stove top"

I'll see your oven and stovetop, and raise you a gas furnace and water heater (no gas clothes dryer, though).

That gas stove saved our asses during the "big Texas freeze" when the windmills froze. Had to light it with a match, but it kept us somewhat warm when the electricity failed (couldn't run the gas furnace without electric power to the blower).

30 posted on 01/11/2023 3:57:05 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: ifinnegan

This is the same kind of trash that led to CARB rules in California and the determined ‘fact’ that diesel particulate matter from trucks causes cancer. My understanding is that any particulate matter could cause cancer. You know, like forest fires or homeless polluting the streets. Where’s that study?


31 posted on 01/11/2023 4:00:55 AM PST by linedrive
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To: Freedom56v2
Next will be NG fired H2O heaters. Then NG fired furnaces.
32 posted on 01/11/2023 4:06:43 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: NoLibZone

If we could only ban idiots and those who support them.


33 posted on 01/11/2023 4:26:30 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: DeplorablePaul

The entire western world mandated people mask up and stand no closer than six feet apart because some 12 year-old’s science fair project hypothesized that exhaled particulates fall to the ground at the magic six foot mark.

So, yes, this “study” will be used ruthlessly to deprive us of everything carbonated.


34 posted on 01/11/2023 4:29:18 AM PST by MisterEd37 (TSA: You don't get on until we get off!)
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To: ifinnegan

Not crazy.

Evil.


35 posted on 01/11/2023 4:40:23 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: Freedom56v2

Senator Scott Wiener
@Scott_Wiener
Gas stoves are toxic to people’s health. They cause asthma in children, cardiac problems & other disease. They need to be phased out.
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Ari Natter
@AriNatter
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Jan 9
The US Consumer Product Safety Commission says a ban on gas stoves is on the table amid rising concern about harmful indoor air pollutants emitted by the appliances.

https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-09/us-safety-agency-to-consider-ban-on-gas-stoves-amid-health-fears?srnd=green&sref=Vi7wu7Hv
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3:50 PM · Jan 9, 2023

The author is a CA state senator.


36 posted on 01/11/2023 4:41:28 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: mewzilla

Any correlation between gas stoves and asthma is likely because gas lines are generally in urban areas. It is too expensive to run underground gas lines to rural areas. Urban areas also have higher level of particulate pollution from vehicles, construction, and industry. The studies, if they show correlation, are the same as the studies that showed higher incidence of cancer near power lines. There is more cancer near power lines because there are more people near power lines.


37 posted on 01/11/2023 4:55:57 AM PST by brookwood (Government discriminates against you, and if you complain, calls you a racist.)
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To: brookwood

You’re preaching to the converted. :-)


38 posted on 01/11/2023 4:57:15 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: NoLibZone

The solution to the gas stove flap is to eliminate Richard Trumka.

Like his terrorist father, Richard is a blight on the American soul


39 posted on 01/11/2023 5:01:37 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality daythis piece is )
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To: brookwood
"It is too expensive to run underground gas lines to rural areas."

Not true. I grew up in a VERY rural area of south Louisiana. Gas transmission lines serving individual homes were run along highway/road rights of way in the 1960's. We converted our propane central furnace to run on natgas at that time.

40 posted on 01/11/2023 5:06:00 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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