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Man Legally Changed Gender to Gain Custody of His Kids. Trans Groups Are Concerned.
Vice ^ | Janaury 5, 2023 | Nathaniel Janowitz

Posted on 01/07/2023 8:53:10 AM PST by grundle

René Salinas Ramos says the legal change is an attempt to gain full custody of his daughters, because Ecuadoran law favors mothers in custody battles.

A cisgender man in Ecuador legally changed his gender to female in an attempt to gain custody of his two daughters. But LGBTQ groups are concerned about the man’s use of a law designed to promote transgender rights, and what effect it could have in the future.

René Salinas Ramos, 47, told local media that the change was not related to his sexuality or identity, but rather that the Ecuadorian legal system gives preferable rights to mothers over fathers when it comes to the custody of children.

“The laws say that the one who has the right is the woman. As of this moment, I am female. Now I’m also a mom, that’s how I consider myself,” Salinas Ramos told La Voz del Tomebamba outside the Civil Registry office on December 30 in the city of Cuenca. “I am very sure of my sexuality. What I have sought is that I want to be a mother, so that I can also give the love and protection of a mother.”

Salinas Ramos alleged that his daughters live in an abusive environment with their mother and that he hasn’t seen his children in over five months.

“Being a father in this country, Ecuador, is punished and I’m only seen as a provider,” said Salinas Ramos.

But the man’s legal change from male to female has surprised and concerned LGBTQ activists who fought to have Ecuadorian laws changed in 2015 to allow the change of gender.

“This man’s private matter, to obtain custody of his daughters, isn’t the spirit of the law,” Diane Rodríguez, one of Ecuador’s most prominent trans activists and the national director of the Ecuadorian Federation of Organizations LGBTI, told VICE World News.

Rodríguez, who became Ecuador’s first trans Assembly person from 2018 to 2021 and also helped spearhead the 2015 law, said that with her understanding of the law, a judge would certainly not give custody because of a change of gender “because it does not make sense that you have changed your gender in the identity document without being a trans person, only with the objective of taking advantage to obtain custody.”

The concept seemed so outlandish at first that Rodríguez admitted that when she saw it in the local press, she thought it was “fake news.” But after realizing that the man had in fact legally changed his gender, the Ecuadorian Federation of Organizations LGBTI released a statement denouncing the change on Tuesday.

“We are afraid that in the Assembly things will go backwards and they will start legislating against us,” she said.

Rodríguez explained that the 2015 law created an unintended consequence because while it allowed people to legally change their gender on Ecuadorian documents, it didn’t allow them to change their sex on government issued documents that are recognized globally such as passports. This in effect, meant that trans people needed to have two different legal documents, one that defined their preferred gender identity, and one that defined their sex by birth. 

In May, trans activists reached a major milestone when the assembly ratified a previous 2018 legal decision that allowed a trans man to legally change his sex. That ratification created a legal precedent where the assembly had nine months to legislate and potentially approve a law that would allow the change of a person’s sex.

“So, what is happening at this moment [with Salinas Ramos] could cause a change of criteria of some assembly members for the change of sex in the identity card of trans people,” said Rodríguez. “They now only have one month to process this law. That is our current fear.”

Seemingly expecting the backlash, Salinas Ramos told La Voz del Tomebamba that his decision “is not against a person, not to harm anyone, but rather to fight against this system that has stigmatized the fact of being born a man.”

But Rodríguez doubted that the man’s legal change to female would help him beyond added publicity to his case.

“The law doesn’t say anything about the best interests of children,” she said. “I understand that in his situation, in desperation, he chose to change the gender on the identity document. But no, it won't have any effect.”


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KEYWORDS: childcustody; civilrights; legalprecedent; lgbtq; precedent; trans; transgender
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To: Tax-chick
I would bet that he is an excellent father.

Occasionally the young ones decide they are clever, (they are clever but age and experience beats youth and a odd hair cut) and try to find a way around us. We often agree and then take their idea to the furthest logical conclusion.

They quickly decide they don't actually want that. :)

21 posted on 01/07/2023 10:40:46 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: grundle

This concerns them, but men sex offenders claiming to be women and getting into women’s prisons does not.


22 posted on 01/07/2023 10:56:12 AM PST by Chicory
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To: grundle
THIS is the only way to actually break the “woke” tyranny. Because the “identities” in “identity politics” are based 100% on personal feelings, and because woke leftists will therefore NEVER go anywhere near trying to define them (such as we’ve seen with the simple question, What is a woman?), the way to crush this insanity is for EVERYONE to participate in it.

Of course, I don’t mean actually participating in the delusion, but rather, like this guy, pretending to in order to demand the same preferential treatment that LGBTQ++etc. currently receive. And here’s the key: Demand to be treated as a member of one of their preferred groups, but do so without changing anything objective about yourself. Example: As a man who is actually perfectly normal, insist that you are now a woman, and demand every perk that has been set aside for not only real women but also “transgender women”, and do so without changing your appearance or behavior one iota. By doing so, force the woke tyrants to either define what characteristics make a woman a woman (which would completely destroy their “because I feel like it” narrative) or accept the fact that trannies will no longer be treated any differently than anyone else, and in the process create such absurd chaos that even many liberals finally wake up to how insane it all is.

And the same approach could be applied to racial reparations, if that ever becomes a reality. Every lilly-white Caucasian should insist that they are black (bonus points for “identifying” as a black “trans woman”). and therefore owed reparations. Again, force the woke mob to define precisely what makes someone “black”, and therefore eligible to receive reparations payments. They won’t go there because they CAN’T.

23 posted on 01/07/2023 11:30:50 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: grundle

Live by the sword...


24 posted on 01/07/2023 12:09:12 PM PST by DPMD
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To: Tax-chick

I plan to marry my father to avoid inheritance taxes. Wonder what they’ll think of that?


25 posted on 01/07/2023 12:14:14 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Don't wish your enemy ill; plan it. )
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To: Hardastarboard

Best wishes.


26 posted on 01/07/2023 12:38:48 PM PST by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

He’s certainly creative.

My offspring think they know stuff, too.


27 posted on 01/07/2023 12:39:43 PM PST by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: grundle

Using their own stupid nonsense against them, confusing and confounding them.

Good deal.


28 posted on 01/07/2023 12:41:44 PM PST by Allegra
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To: grundle

Love conquers all.


29 posted on 01/07/2023 12:41:52 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: grundle

Use their own logic against them.

Same people say gender is fluid. He could feel like mom in the morning, but feel like dad later when baseball practice is scheduled.

Cant question people about it. Thats lawsuit time.


30 posted on 01/07/2023 12:41:56 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: grundle

Trans groups are CLEARLY bigots, and should sit down and shut up and let this person live their best life. Isn’t that what we’ve been called, and told?


31 posted on 01/07/2023 12:53:24 PM PST by FrankRizzo890
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To: grundle

Libtards never think about the potential for unexpected consequences, side effects and collateral damage of their hoaxes and scams.

Cross dressers in sports opened this door...

Men can now use the Cross Dressing scam to get into girls bathrooms, female prisons and to win in womens sports.

So why shouldn’t they be able to use the scam to win in legal battles and other areas of endeavor?


32 posted on 01/07/2023 12:59:34 PM PST by Iron Munro (Michael Byrd: "Well, Babbitt wasn't gonna' shoot herself, was she?")
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To: grundle

33 posted on 01/07/2023 1:05:31 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (The only good commie is one that's dead - Country Joe McDonald)
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To: grundle
In some countries, "changing" your "gender" lets you retire earlier.

From Switzerland:

https://www.odditycentral.com/news/man-changes-gender-so-he-can-legally-retire-an-receive-pension-a-year-earlier.html

From Argentina:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5544173/Argentinian-man-legally-changes-gender-retire-earlier.html

34 posted on 01/07/2023 2:00:21 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Tax-chick
They keep you on your toes.

:)

35 posted on 01/07/2023 3:31:48 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: grundle

I don’t believe that will go over well for him in Ecuador.


36 posted on 01/07/2023 4:41:35 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Dingolingo888

I wonder when some husband will try this in the US in divorce court?🤔


37 posted on 01/08/2023 2:01:07 AM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: seowulf

A sweet transvestite from transexual Transylvania.🤪


38 posted on 01/08/2023 2:04:44 AM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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