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McCarthy loses speaker vote for fifth time
UPI ^ | January 4, 2023 | By Matt Bernardini

Posted on 01/04/2023 12:25:30 PM PST by Red Badger

Jan. 4 (UPI) -- Kevin McCarthy lost for a fifth time his bid to lead Republicans as speaker of the House on Wednesday.

During the fourth and fifth ballots on Wednesday, McCarthy received 201 votes, while the Democratic Nominee, Hakeem Jeffries of New York, received 212 votes from Democrats as he did in each vote on Tuesday.

However, this time it was Florida Rep. Byron Donalds, instead of Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, who took votes away from McCarthy. Donalds received 20 votes on the fourth and fifth ballots.

Opposition to McCarthy has been growing with each ballot. A total of 20 Republican colleagues opposed McCarthy during the third vote on Tuesday, which wrapped up shortly before 5 p.m., an increase from 19 during the second vote. He had collected 202 votes on the third ballot on Tuesday, one more than Wednesday's fourth ballot.

Rep.-elect Victoria Spartz, R-Ind., voted present in the fourth and fifth votes, voting for McCarthy in previous rounds.

It's unclear if there will be a sixth ballot on Wednesday.

Mike Gallagher, R-Wisc., nominated McCarthy for the fourth vote on Wednesday, saying he was the best choice to lead the party as the House convened for a fourth vote to settle the chamber's leadership.

"I believe that in my bones, nobody has done more to lay out a plan for how we restore the basic functioning of this institution than Kevin McCarthy," he said.

Rep. Pete Aguilar, D-Calif., nominated Jeffries for both the fourth and fifth vote, while Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas, nominated Donalds.

"We do not seek to judge people by the color of their skin but rather the content of their character," Roy said. "There's an important reason for nominating Byron, and that is, this country needs a change."

Tuesday's vote marked the first time in 100 years a speaker has not been elected on the first ballot.

McCarthy expressed optimism on Tuesday night that he would still emerge victorious, even though some Republicans have suggested that McCarthy could lose more votes.

"This isn't about me," McCarthy told reporters. "This is about the conference now because the members who are holding out ... they want something for their personal selves."

McCarthy also told reporters that it doesn't matter if he loses more votes.

"It doesn't matter -- I have the most votes," he said.

Donalds had voted for McCarthy during the first two rounds, but voted against him during the third round. He suggested that McCarthy could lose more votes the longer voting goes on.

McCarthy has reportedly said that there is no scenario where he pulls out of the race for speaker, noting that he could seek a path in which he does not need to secure 218 votes, but rather a smaller majority by convincing some of his detractors to vote "present."

"You're sitting on 202 votes, so you need technically just 11 more votes to win," he said. "Democrats have 212 votes. You get 213 votes, and the others don't say another name, that's how you can win."

Ahead of Tuesday's votes, McCarthy had announced several concessions in a proposed House rules package, including changes to how the speaker could be removed, in an effort to gain the necessary votes. The concessions would allow any five Republican party members to call for the speaker's removal at any time, rather than a threshold of more than half of the House GOP conference that Republicans adopted in an internal rule in November.

Despite the concessions, several Republicans followed through on their plan to vote for Jordan.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia criticized fellow Republicans who opposed McCarthy, noting that even Jordan is supporting McCarthy.

"How did 19 Republicans not respect that?" Greene said. "I think 19, or 20 now, should respect Jim Jordan's wishes."

Former President Donald Trump said the Republicans should vote for McCarthy.

"I think it is a dangerous game, and, frankly, if they are not happy with him, they can do something about it at a later date," Trump told Fox News Digital in an interview. "I support [McCarthy] and I support getting the deal done. What I don't support is allowing this to continue onward."


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To: Scrambler Bob

61 posted on 01/04/2023 12:46:06 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Gene Eric

They don’t like me, they Really, don’t like me!

How truthfully different would the Senate have been if McConnel were voted out and Pierre Delecto (Romney) were in his place. Dems would have still got all they wanted, maybe more on illegal invasions.

This is a gut check, how in H311 can an establishment, well pressed-suit RINO squish from California who has done NOTHING for America, hope to represent the average American Citizen’s interests when dealing with hard-rock Communists, Globalists, Traitors, Totalitarians, etc.


62 posted on 01/04/2023 12:46:22 PM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Gene Eric

They don’t like me, they Really, don’t like me!

How truthfully different would the Senate have been if McConnel were voted out and Pierre Delecto (Romney) were in his place. Dems would have still got all they wanted, maybe more on illegal invasions.

This is a gut check, how in H311 can an establishment, well pressed-suit RINO squish from California who has done NOTHING for America, hope to represent the average American Citizen’s interests when dealing with hard-rock Communists, Globalists, Traitors, Totalitarians, etc.


63 posted on 01/04/2023 12:46:22 PM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Red Badger

“This is about the conference now because the members who are holding out ... they want something for their personal selves.”
What? and he doesn’t want this position for his personal self?


64 posted on 01/04/2023 12:46:24 PM PST by antceecee
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It is now all about McCarthy’s ego. “Its his turn,dammitt”


65 posted on 01/04/2023 12:46:48 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: Red Badger

McCarthy needs to step aside his desire is standing in the way not the 20 voting for others


66 posted on 01/04/2023 12:46:57 PM PST by Clean_Sweep
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To: Red Badger

They’re on the 6th round right now.


67 posted on 01/04/2023 12:47:24 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: RatRipper

By his actions pulling funding from conservatives in the election, McCarthy disenfranchised millions of conservatives like me who vote Republican. He is not fit to serve as the Speaker of the Party. Screw him and the RINO GOPe. We have a country to save and he has PROVEN he will not, AND DID NOT, do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Agree 100%. He thought if they did not get elected that he would become Speaker. Go Matt Gaetz and company!!! Stay Strong!!!!!!!


68 posted on 01/04/2023 12:48:36 PM PST by LoveMyFreedom
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Thank you. Is there a live thread for it?


69 posted on 01/04/2023 12:48:51 PM PST by OKSooner (Don't try to beat the cops at their own game.)
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To: Paladin2

MAGA is not the base of the GOP.

If it were, Jordan would have 201 votes and McCarthy would have 20.

You are a minority in the GOP, and your childlike belief that the GOP is “us”, “our” party, “we” who are going to reverse the catastrophic decline of the nation is part of the problem.


70 posted on 01/04/2023 12:49:15 PM PST by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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To: Paladin2

Yes, he is more of a “Frenemy”


71 posted on 01/04/2023 12:49:29 PM PST by antceecee
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To: McCarthysGhost

Trump should know a snake when he sees one. He’s been bitten by a few.


72 posted on 01/04/2023 12:50:19 PM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: OKSooner

RSBN live stream.


73 posted on 01/04/2023 12:50:35 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Red Badger

Anyone political capital that McCarthy had is now shot. He’s the posterboy for Democrats, and will still be seen as untrustworthy by many Republicans if he does get elected as Speaker.

Time to move onto another candidate.


74 posted on 01/04/2023 12:50:52 PM PST by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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To: hillarys cankles

Sit back and watch. That’s what I’m doing.


75 posted on 01/04/2023 12:51:00 PM PST by navymom1
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To: All

Round 7 coming up.


76 posted on 01/04/2023 12:51:07 PM PST by rdl6989 ( )
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To: Red Badger

The 145th time is a charm!


77 posted on 01/04/2023 12:53:48 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: voicereason
[He] will still be seen as untrustworthy by many Republicans if he does get elected as Speaker.

Bad news.

What Republicans perceive about any situation is of no importance.

The last time anyone in power cared about what the Republican rank and file thought about anything was 1928.

78 posted on 01/04/2023 12:53:54 PM PST by Jim Noble (You have sat too long for any good you have been doing)
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To: Red Badger

He’s lost almost as many times as the Houston Texans.


79 posted on 01/04/2023 12:54:23 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Jim Noble

I’m fully aware the the GOPee is not for 1/2 of their base.

I didn’t vote for either GOPee Congress ‘critter on my ballot in the ‘22 General.


80 posted on 01/04/2023 12:54:35 PM PST by Paladin2
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