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Digital revolution can prevent voter-fraud

Posted on 12/08/2022 4:59:53 AM PST by kp2hot

Forget EVM.

Forget Mail-in Voting.


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Democracy needs Digital revolution to meet the challenges to integrity of elections.

A digital App that is hack-proof and has robust bio-matric backed registration,, security and authentication.

A digital App that allows people to register and vote online from comfort of their home on a day of election.

A digital app that can be downloaded on phone or computer.

Those who do not have digital resources or knowhow can vote in person at polling stations as they do now.

This will increase voter participation in democracy.

This will prevent vote harvesting and bogus voting and voter-apathy.

We already have the technology, resources and the need.

What is needed is political will.

1 posted on 12/08/2022 4:59:53 AM PST by kp2hot
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No such thing as “hack proof.” I’ve been working in cybersecurity for 10 years and IT in general for over 25. Everything that was once billed as “hack proof,” whether it’s infrastructure or a service or a concept or a framework has fallen out of favor because it was hacked.

For elections, we need to go old school. Most other western societies have elections in person for one day on paper ballots. Early voting, electronic voting, voting online, vote by mail, it’s all ripe for fraud, and we’ve seen that over the last 6 years.

This year’s midterms SHOULD have gone the same way that Florida went: bright, deep red. Unfortunately vote fraud is so rampant and out of control that it’s going to take real courage and force of will to get reforms passed. It has to start at the state level. The federal government is wholly compromised and represents a threat to the lives of every true American.


2 posted on 12/08/2022 5:03:48 AM PST by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: kp2hot

Sorry, but if it’s a computer, it can be hacked.


3 posted on 12/08/2022 5:04:40 AM PST by SirFishalot
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To: rarestia; kp2hot
I agree with nothing is hack proof. I have similar experience as you rarestia and technology is not the solution. Also, I'm not keen on having all kinds of traceable and tech heavy IDs that will be used against the citizenry when the Gov wants to.

Give us our cash, our paper ballots and our Election DAY (Not days and weeks) back - it worked for ever and is still valid today.

4 posted on 12/08/2022 5:14:04 AM PST by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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This is the fundamental problem: The concept that technology can replace the duties of citizens in a republic. People want to believe that there is a lazy tech solution to paper ballots and people counting the votes in small local precincts. A republic requires citizen involvement or it fails. At present, the Big Tech regime running the U.S. of A. thrives because of a lack of citizen involvement in the once “sacred” election process.


5 posted on 12/08/2022 5:17:50 AM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: kp2hot

Not at this time in history


6 posted on 12/08/2022 5:24:12 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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Nothing digital could ever be fraud free. We just need to go back to what worked in the past: same-day, in-person voting, physical ballots, voter id verification. I would also suggest going back to mechanical lever voting machines. Instant vote tallies with no software that can be hacked.


7 posted on 12/08/2022 5:25:02 AM PST by Petrosius
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Putting a fingerprint with a name on a list is simple to hack. You just shuffle the names where you need the votes and use ERIC to find the numbers then harvest with your mules. Good luck finding phantom voters as they never existed.
I am for same day voting with picture ID absentee should be extremely rare. Military should be run by the military and transparent to them. Paper ballots only. Smaller precincts and federal ballots separated from state/local.


8 posted on 12/08/2022 5:31:47 AM PST by Michigan Bowhunter
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To: Petrosius

America is repeating the Roman times after the reign of Marcus Aurelius…The Rise and Fall of the American Empire is the book waiting to be written…


9 posted on 12/08/2022 5:33:23 AM PST by princess leah
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To: kp2hot

I have been told that “hack-proof” does not exist.

If you’re good, the low level script kiddies don’t know how to get you, but the real geniuses and the state level actors (and the mix of them, for example our government contracts out stuff like this) can break into nearly anything (much of it is made to have hidden access) and crack just about anything.

So it’s only a question of motivation. A decade ago it would have seemed unthinkable that our own deep state would interfere with our own elections. Now.....


10 posted on 12/08/2022 5:43:33 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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Just text your vote.


11 posted on 12/08/2022 5:44:43 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: kp2hot

All that crap has plenty of back doors and other room for shenanigans. Gotta go back to the Euro approach of paper ballots, hand counted in the open in individual communities the day of the one-day elections.


12 posted on 12/08/2022 5:45:12 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: rarestia

Yes! Go purple finger method.


13 posted on 12/08/2022 5:53:07 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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How abt a retina or thumb scanner. The blacks do not have to get and ID because dems think they are stupid and THAT should give you 1 (ONE) vote. Nothing mail in. Everybody goes to the election site. Even if you give them a month their digital scan only gives 1 vote.


14 posted on 12/08/2022 5:54:04 AM PST by Singermom
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Can you develop it? If so, then you would accomplish what has eluded those who have tried so far. A fool-proof way to overcome hacking.

Let me guess, you got this from some sci-fi source, am I correct?

Really not trying to be mean, just trying to make you think your ideas completely through before you go sharing them with others.

Now if you think you actually have a working model, then start testing it and prove that it has no vulnerabilities, and if successful, you will become a very wealthy person, maybe.

One pitfall I see right off the bat, if they object to photo IDs, I can only imagine the ruckus they would raise when you tried to collect bio metric data off of citizens.

15 posted on 12/08/2022 6:01:58 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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While I generally agree with you about same day voting Visa/MC/Amex/Discover process hundreds of millions correctly each day INSTANTANEOUSLY.

Our elections should be at least as secure as our credit cards, and they aren’t


16 posted on 12/08/2022 6:10:58 AM PST by Fai Mao (Stop feeding the beast, and steal its food!)
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Hack-proof ? Dream on. Whomever built it knows how to hack it.

HOWEVER, would this work to replace the failed polling methods ?

Everyone has a cell phone. Those that care enough to submit preferences to a cellepoll are the same who would likely vote on election day. Less skewable than ‘online polls’ from biased websites.

Cellepolling fears of voter ID and resulting retribution seems the only issue, imho. This could work if true anonymity could be assured, and would destroy biased pollsters and their ‘push polls’.

Whatcha’ think ?


17 posted on 12/08/2022 6:23:36 AM PST by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'll go ahead.)
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The digital revolution is what brought voter fraud to its current state.

It provided the technology and methodology for democrats to elevate voter fraud from localized Mom & Pop efforts to a nationwide workable strategy.

Eliminating technology and returning to basics would strip democrats of the tools they are now using to steal election after election.

Isn’t it remarkable how US politicians and bureaucrats can roam the world teaching third world countries how to conduct secure elections while making sure those simple, reliable techniques are never applied here in the USA?


18 posted on 12/08/2022 6:33:35 AM PST by Iron Munro ((Liberalism is the philosophy of sniveling brats. - P.J. ORourke))
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“A digital App that is hack-proof”

That is a pipe dream. No application is hack-proof.


19 posted on 12/08/2022 6:58:39 AM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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I agree with kp2hot - digital is always open to fraud and cover up. Paper ballots are easily reviewed and all done in one day, so no extra time to produce extra ballots.


20 posted on 12/08/2022 7:19:45 AM PST by Mlheureux
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