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Hungary Blocks $18 Billion Aid Package for Ukraine, Puts NATO Status at Risk
Newsmax ^ | 12/6/22 | Marisa Herman

Posted on 12/06/2022 5:42:09 AM PST by JonPreston

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To: DannyTN

Wrong.


61 posted on 12/06/2022 8:22:34 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston
What?! It's your argument - I was just trying to be polite and say I'd seen it before. Which I have, years ago in the context of potentially booting Turkey, but I'm not going to bother search for it again now. So hey, we'll just assume that you're the first and only person to bring up this whacked-out claim. So with that being said....

How can you possibly make the argument that the Vienna Convention applies to NATO when 1) Article 4 of the Convention expressly says it isn't retroactive, and 2) a bunch of NATO members, included in the United States, haven't even ratified it?

62 posted on 12/06/2022 8:25:47 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
and say I'd seen it before.

Where have you seen it? Is that a difficult question?

63 posted on 12/06/2022 8:27:45 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Orban said he was willing to send $152-$178 million.

He just doesn’t want to be tied into joint loans with the rest of the EU. An understandable position.


64 posted on 12/06/2022 8:36:17 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: JonPreston

And leader of at least one country with any sense. They built a wall, a successful and inexpensive one to keep illegals out.


65 posted on 12/06/2022 8:39:28 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: DannyTN

No he didn’t.


66 posted on 12/06/2022 8:40:37 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

AP quoted him in the article I linked.


67 posted on 12/06/2022 8:55:59 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: dforest

So he is not, as in your post 7 “standing up against domination”


68 posted on 12/06/2022 9:36:39 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: jimwatx; mac_truck

Quite the opposite.

Orban is stopping the aid to Ukraine unless orban gets money


69 posted on 12/06/2022 9:40:42 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: mac_truck

Can you translate the map and the source?


70 posted on 12/06/2022 9:42:31 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: John S Mosby

Poland and Ukraine are not fighting each other.


71 posted on 12/06/2022 9:43:53 AM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: caww

Nah more fun to report you pootie toot lovers for abuse.


72 posted on 12/06/2022 10:05:20 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Cronos

You do not understand— the Germans have egged on the conflict for hundreds of years.

Here’s an example for those who may not know— the machinations of German EU-Nazis (Merkelites if you will):

Ukrainian Ambassador to Germany Andriy Melnyk interviewed with German journalist, claiming Ukrainians were persecuted by Poles in the 2nd Polish Republic. This is something this “diplomat” came up with from his German pals (need one say the EU German manipulators) in yet another irritation foisted on the two countries by— Germany in July 2022.A repeat of the many creations over the last 100 years- the goal- Germany to get a large part of Poland the Nazis couldn’t keep. Referring to Ukrainian Nationalist Bandera. This is a Polish site, with English subtitles for non-Polish speakers and corrects the outrageous lies of this “ambassador” which Ukraine says were “his own”. Melnyk’s words suit the German political goals continued over the century, enough to identify him with the post wwII german manipulation that has gone on all through to the end of Soviets.

An honest review of the history of Ukraine being manipulated post 1991 Soviet fall:

“Ukrainian Troubles with History”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vxAAtPpF-M


73 posted on 12/06/2022 10:47:49 AM PST by John S Mosby ( Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: JonPreston

Hey EU, you need of to get of Hungry’s back over religion before you try to their money away.

Note to World: Never Trust American Democrat Politicians. They broke the US treaty with Viet Nam; they screwed the pooch in Afghanistan, Ukraine, etc. Everywhere Democrats work on a Nation, such as Lybia selling out Kaddafi.

Democrats are unreliable partners in war.


74 posted on 12/06/2022 11:41:41 AM PST by Jumper ( )
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To: PIF

That’s a misuse of this site. Sounds like you just want to fight those who who differing opinions about this war, further it’s never been about taking one side over the other. The two are made of the same cloth.


75 posted on 12/06/2022 3:30:48 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: caww

Trolls that launch personal attacks or any one else are breaking the site rules - and exceedingly vulgar attacks are just heinous. If you don’t like it, take it up with admin and have the remove the abuse tab.

You characters just love the equivocating, when you aren’t launching vulgar personal attacks, every thing is a shade of grey to obfuscate everyone else’s reporting and opinions.


76 posted on 12/06/2022 3:51:48 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: JonPreston
Zelenskyyy is about to get dumped like a hot potato. History is littered with Western lackeys like him.

Zelensky has his Platinum Parachute ready. He'll be just fine.

Enjoying his mansions in Israel, Florida, and Spain. Perhaps, eventually, a country manor in England. And a safe house in New Zealand in case the world implodes.

77 posted on 12/06/2022 3:58:31 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: PIF
You've just made my point - and used as much language as you could muster which could have been said in one sentence.

Further you are greatly mistaken in lumping every Freeper into your idea of who should or not have an opinion about this war. And those opinions vary as any can clearly see.

With that it's best to wrap this going no place conversation except in the gutter where you have taken it....to a close. I'll not be responding further.

78 posted on 12/06/2022 5:15:41 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: PIF

Hold your breath. That will do it.


79 posted on 12/06/2022 6:02:41 PM PST by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: caww
🏆 🍻
80 posted on 12/07/2022 3:34:22 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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