Posted on 11/29/2022 1:09:06 PM PST by Twotone
The news ahead is so dire, we had to cram it into a single article.
#1. Statewide gun sales stop.
The newly passed Measure 114 requires a new complicated process to obtain a firearm that goes way beyond the two different processes of current backgroudn checks and Concealed License Permits. The Democrat Herald’s Hasso Herring explains,
“Unless a court intervenes before Measure 114 takes effect on Dec. 8, it looks like after that date private citizens will no longer be allowed to buy a firearm in Oregon for a good long while. But the promoters of the initiative didn’t mention that.The measure was sold as a “common sense” safety law. It requires a police permit before you can buy a firearm, and to get a permit you have to prove you know how to use a gun. What’s wrong with that?Well, the law also says that to get a permit to buy a gun, you have to prove completion of a firearms training course that is “offered by law enforcement, a community college, or a private or public institution or organization or firearms training school utilizing instructors certified by a law enforcement agency…”Local police and sheriffs do not “certify” instructors for the general public. Nor do they offer public firearms training. Linn-Benton Community College doesn’t offer such training either. Maybe some private gun ranges or self-defense instructors do, but they are not “certified by a law enforcement agency.”The State Police say they are working on administrative rules to carry out the new statute. But whenever the rules are adopted, they presumably can’t change the plain wording of the law.”
#2. Multnomah County’s flavor ban to wipe out countless small businesses.
Could you imagine government banning a grocery store from offering flavored drinks or a liquor store from banning flavored liquor?
(Excerpt) Read more at oregoncatalyst.com ...
Hopefully, enough people seeking freedom flee states like Oregon, and make conservative states even more conservative, so I don’t have to have it happen at all where I live.
Well an Oregon court is unlikely to intervene before 12/8 because no one has been harmed yet. Then, on 12/9 they will say you waited too long. Sorry.
Thanks for the info.
From reading comments by others on here, Oregon has had mass mail in voting since the 90s. And right after that it went Left, then hard Left. Guess that’s the reason that a few of the eastern counties have voted to secede.
It’ll be nice to see the whole thing overturned. What would be even better would be for some of the Sheriffs in the Eastern part of the state, quickly come up with some sort of class to certify instructors.
Easiest thing in the world would be for those interested in becoming an instructor, take the same class that the cops take. Hold them to the same standards for shooting, etc. They pass and they can teach. Going to be hard to argue anything if they can prove that they met or exceeded the same standards as the cops.
Gun sales quadrupled in Oregon on passage of Measure 114. I’m not sure how long the backlog is for NICS approval.
I was thinking they need to take a course on the constitution given by Hillsdale College before they can vote. People truly are fools in that state.
In case anyone things that a majority of voters voted for this:
Oregon has filthy stolen elections, at least since the dems got all mail in voting in 1998 or so.
As of a couple of weeks ago, a number of county sheriffs said they will not implement this unconsitutiotnal “law”, my county included.
Make your choice, drugs or the right to bear arms. States that legalize drugs will regard you even more as slaves and violate your constitutional rights.
And an enormous increase in the drug popularity paradigm will precede a state’s decision to legalize a drug. Such a state is already brimming with Democrat voters. Marijuana turns most of its users to the left. The interests growing, selling and promoting the drug abuse also usher in more public corruption by way of increased regulations and bribery. An increased influx of people from corrupt countries ensues, sending the process into a vicious circle.
That was just the magazine capacity restriction. Permiting and purchase will be in the hands of others, to include FFL dealers, and the State Police.
Sheriff Nullification.
That won’t fly with FFL dealers, or the State Police. The best that sheriffs will be able to do is not enforce prohibition on the possession/use of magazines holding more than 10 rounds.
Measure 114 was purposely written to make it impossible to get a firearm in Oregon. They bragged about it.
I may be OK with this nowadays..
Maybe they (the stinking lawyers) need to collect up ALL the guns in the rat states.. The less guns for democrats, the better.....nothing worse then a bunch of commies with guns.. :(
Actually, it doesn’t provide the right. It explicitly prohibits the government (at all levels thanks to the 14th) from infringing on the existing natural right in any way. Full stop.
If the voters of Oregon don’t care, why should I? I couldn’t care less.
Statewide gun sales stop aka the China grip.
I disagree. 2A "ACKNOWLEDGES AND GUARANTEES" our God given right. It does not "provide" the right to us. This is not semantics, nor is it a minor point.
Adding paragraphs for easier reading. This is different from the first statement by the Sheriff. The below makes me want to puke. All because of ELECTION THEFT in Oregon.
https://www.facebook.com/jcsosheriff/
Josephine County Sheriff’s Office
November 17, 2022
Statement on Measure 114
The Oregon State Sheriffs’ Association (OSSA) has been receiving a number of inquiries about how and when Measure 114 will be implemented. OSSA understands that Oregonians have strong opinions on this measure, and many who believe that it is a violation of their Second Amendment rights. Any violation of the constitution will ultimately be decided by the judicial branch of government, and OSSA is confident that there will be legal challenges to the measure to test whether or not this measure is constitutional.
Any legal challenge could potentially result in the measure being stayed (suspended or a delayed implementation) by a court, but that is not a certainty.
Because the measure prevents anyone from purchasing a firearm without a permit, waiting for a court stay of the measure puts Oregonians at risk of not being able to purchase any firearms at all after the measure takes effect. In light of that, while the legal challenges work their way through the system, OSSA will work with the Oregon State Police and the Oregon Association of Chiefs of Police to implement a permit system as soon as possible.
OSSA was not consulted when this measure was crafted and completely understands the uncertainty caused by this measure, however the measure was passed by a majority of Oregonians. Until such time as all or part of the measure is stayed or found unconstitutional by a court, the measure is the law in Oregon.
OSSA did provide a cost analysis to implement this program prior to the election. OSSA stands behind this cost analysis and is confident this program as structured will cost local governments more than the fee generates. Creating and maintaining the permit process will require local law enforcement agencies to shift the already limited law enforcement resources to this newly enacted measure/program.
There are many unanswered questions about the measure that will have to be determined by the courts and other State Elected Officials/agencies. Below is what we know so far.
*The measure will take effect on December 8th, 2022.
*As of the date the measure goes into effect we believe that all firearms sales by dealers, at gun shows and most private transfers (other than to a close relative) in Oregon will immediately stop.
*Firearms purchases (that have not been completed prior to December 8, 2022) will most likely not be completed at all until the purchaser obtains a permit-to-purchase because the Oregon State Police will stop processing the required background checks if there is no permit.
*In order to get a permit, a person must pay a $65 fee and meet several requirements, including having proof of completion of any law enforcement firearms training course or class that is offered for security guards, investigators, reserve or other law enforcement officers, or from a trainer certified by a law enforcement agency.
*Every Sheriff’s Office and local police department must set up a system to issue these permits. The revenue generated by the permits ($65 for each permit) will not come close to fully funding the required processes. In most law enforcement agencies there is no personnel or money to fund this required program. This will result in other public safety resources being reduced to cover the costs of implementing a new permit program.
*After the effective date of this measure, it will be a crime (Class A misdemeanor) to manufacture, sell, possess, transfer or use a large magazine that holds over ten rounds, with some narrow exceptions for licensed gun dealers and manufacturers.
*A person charged with the crime of possession of a large capacity magazine can raise an affirmative defense if they can prove they owned the large capacity magazine before the measure took effect and the magazine was either on property owned by the person, or on the premises of a licensed gun dealer, or they were using the magazine at a public or private shooting range to the extent permitted under state law, while engaged in a firearms competition or exhibition, or while transporting the magazine to one of the excepted locations if the magazine is locked in a separate container from the gun.
*Having an Oregon concealed handgun license (CHL) does not excuse a person from obtaining a permit-to-purchase, although the training required to obtain a CHL may satisfy some of the training requirements needed to get a permit.
*Having a concealed handgun license does not exempt a person from the ban on large-capacity magazines. Even after obtaining a permit-to-purchase, a person wishing to buy a firearm will be required to go through another background check at the time of purchase to get an approval from the Oregon State Police for the transfer.
*The measure also requires the Oregon State Police to create and maintain a database (registry) of all firearms sales once the measure takes effect. A person will stay on that registry until they provide proof they transferred the firearm to another permit holder and the information to have the registry updated to reflect the new ownership.
OSSA asks for patience as OSSA works collaboratively with other law enforcement organizations to implement the permit process. While this is a huge undertaking for Oregon law enforcement which is already under-resourced, OSSA will work diligently to implement this complex measure.
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