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I don't know who chopped off 8,000 Native American feet in New Mexico. Have they found 8,000 footless skeletons there? Might it be that it was a fabrication? A decree by Juan de Onate that was never, or only partially, carried out? It's unlikely that it was all done at once, if it was done at all.
Yeah, all those Anglos all throughout South America. /s
I’ll take a wild guess and say the native Indian population were always on the verge of near extinction before any White people even showed up.
How easy to ignore the massacres done by one's ancestors and blame everything on immigrants...
I’m getting a feeling that sometime this week there will be an announcement of a vacancy for a historian position.
Great. Another blame whitey story to start the day.
Shaddup already. Didn’t we defeat these people? A bigger badder tribe showed up, THE END. I have always had a fascination with Plains Indians in particular, the Comanche, Kiowa, Sioux, Cheyenne, etc. due to their very impressive abilities as a light cavalry, however, I’ve never been under any delusions these tribes were anything but raping, murdering and pillaging cultures. Move on, figure out how to get your fat, alcoholic and diabetic people into a productive lifestyle. And remember, chief, ….not a white man alive killed an Indian.
What are Anglos?
Apaches had Indian enemies. How did the Apaches treat the neighboring tribes?
Indigenous=earlier arrivals.
If 8,000 indigenous people did have their feet cut off during the modern era someone would have noted this in diaries, reports and something hideous as this would hardly have escaped public notice. These were probably ancient skeletons. We know the native peoples in the Americas had fierce intertribal warfare where cruelties of every kind occurred. The Aztecs, in particular, performed untold numbers of human sacrifices. Maybe this historian needs to look into this aspect of life in the Americas among the original inhabitants before conveniently pointing the finger at Spain and the US!
We came, we took their land and subjugated them. It’s not a mystery of any sort... Sadly, they were easily subjugated because they were essentially stone aged people fighting against European’s with flintlock muskets, horses and swords... Three things the indigenous people of North America didn’t have when Columbus and other explorers arrived in North and South America.
They have been abused and mistreated for centuries... That’s they way it goes... Just ask the Irish, Scottish and other communities that were subjugated by the British. You just need to suck it up and get over it.
– Geronimo
The conquest of America is always continuing. Indian tribes didn't unite and were wiped off the map with migration. That continues today.
Non united America continues to be destroyed with constant migration. Parties and politicans continue to create division and chaos. We all live on the American reservation now. Less freedom, less future. Whites will be a minority soon, and they will have the same quotes that indians said of the past.
The mockings of past indians defeats will be repeated by aoc and other conquistadors toward whites of today. That is the natural process of humans, when there is no borders, culture, etc.
Probably a modern "historical fact" created out of thin air to heighten the Native American's anger for the white man.
There were also atrocities committed by both sides, in retaliation to retaliate against whomever had committed the last atrocity.
The White Guy who Civilized the North American Continent.
Whew, just in time!
Nov 27, 1868 : Colonel George Custer massacres Cheyenne on Washita River
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/custer-massacres-cheyenne-on-washita-river
Spanish and “Anglo” are pretty much the same. The Spanish were white folks who didn’t become “hispanic” until they began to have families with indigenous people of Mexico/S America.
I remember when hispanic folks used to b1tch about those hispanic types who call themselves “Spanish” to separate them from the Mestizos, or the abovementioned hybrids. “I’m not a Mexican, I’m SPANISH.” And so on.
If one looks at art from old Spain, one sees white people. There are very few swarthy types in the mix - they have dark hair most of the time, but otherwise: Whities.
So for this dude to try to separate out the Spanish from the “anglos” - weak sauce. The Spanish WERE the Anglos who established themselves in Mexico and S America. The Germans were big there for a while, too.
I am told that is how a big part of my dad’s family got to live in TX and OK: Because they were sent from the East to live on reservations in the Southwest on the “trail of tears.” That’s what I was told, but I never bothered to look it up, so dunno for sure. I do know that as a kid I visited an uncle who was VERY old and lived on the reservation in OK. He had a lot of cool stuff including some hide paintings, arrowheads, and scalps. (SCALPS!!!!!!😍)
Maybe he stole them...?
Anyway, I’m not a great fan of white people these days, but I don’t hate them, either. (I just wonder why Whitey is so cowardly, stupid, and blind compared to how he used to be.) Injuns always seem friendly when one meets them, but I have a number of stories about why one should never tarry when crossing “the res.”
Now I’m remembering that one South Park episode about the reservation Injuns giving all the SP characters SARS. Remember that? That was funny! (I HATE SP now but the memories aren’t all bad.)
I’ve been studying New Mexico genealogy since that’s where my ancestors come from. I have never seen a report of 8000 people’s feet being cut off. I have seen that the Apaches and the Utes etc. would war amongst each other raid the children and sell them to the Spaniards as slaves.
Who knows what the reality is but if you look at the Spanish people of New Mexico they all have Native American blood although they denied it until DNA opened their eyes. My own is 17% through my mother. The blood cannot be traced to Apache or Ute or Navajo, just native. The Spaniards would take the children and make them part of their family, baptize them and yes use them as servants but also marry them. The Indians knew that these children would not be killed by the Spaniards but would be made into Christians.
I have read stories of the Indians bringing children to the Spaniards to take and the Spaniards would say no, we have enough, so the Indians would just start killing them in front of the Spaniards. The Spaniards took the children.
Slavery was a major cause of the Pueblo Revolt of 1680 and other unrest among the indigenous people of northern Mexico. Following the revolt, the business of providing enslaved people for the New Mexico market passed into the hands of the Navajo, Utes, Comanches, and Apaches.
Apache Captives’ Ordeal
Suddenly, like a clap of thunder from a clear sky, the Apache gave a bloodthirsty yell. Jumping up from where they sat, they drew short, thick clubs from beneath their wolfskins and rushed the astonished family. Lorenzo took the first blow, falling headfirst to the ground. His father was surrounded and beaten to death in an instant. Two attackers seized Olive and Mary Ann, holding them to one side while their companions quickly finished the work. In less than a minute, the rest of the Oatmans were beaten down and slain, Mrs. Oatman dying with her youngest son still clasped in her arms.
The Apache dubbed the Oatman girls the ‘Onatas,’ and soon made them understand their status in the tribe: they were slaves. ‘You have been fed too well,’ the Indians taunted; ‘we will teach you to live on little.’ The Apaches’ favored food was meat–deer, ground squirrel or snake–boiled into a kind of mush. This however was reserved for the men. The women of the tribe, and most especially female prisoners, were expected to spend every waking hour in quest of edible vegetation, such as yucca buds, wild onion, cactus root and prickly pear fruit. It was a miserable diet for the Oatman girls, requiring terrible labor to maintain a bare subsistence, and it was made all the more bitter by the taunting behavior of the Apache. ‘They invented modes,’ recalled Olive, ‘and seemed to create necessities of labor, that they might gratify themselves by taxing us to the utmost, and even took unwarranted delight in whipping us on beyond our strength.’