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Apache historian questions official narratives: ‘How is it possible that 120 soldiers cut off the feet of 8,000 of our brave Indigenous people?’
El Pais ^ | 26/11/22 | Vicente G. Olaya

Posted on 11/27/2022 6:17:46 AM PST by Eleutheria5

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To: Eleutheria5

The Karankawa did not eat feet.


41 posted on 11/27/2022 7:38:09 AM PST by BAN-ONE
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To: Eleutheria5
Some "representatives" of indigenous people in the U.S. are probing the white man's culture and society to see if he has gone soft. You can't blame them.

They take a look at the Democrats and many U.S. institutions who have gone Woke and assume it's time to strike (i.e., seek some kind of financial restitution).

You can't blame them for that either.

All that said, Woke society is a pussified society and it has placed itself squarely opposite reality itself.

I watched a video just this morning in which a former Wokester said that if you really wanted to piss off a Wokester, tell him that "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger" or tell him to "suck it up."

He (they, she, it, them) will fly into a rage.

The Left, the Wokesters, and the CRT proponents hate reality with a passion.

Can you imagine how utterly insane it is to pick a fight with reality?

42 posted on 11/27/2022 7:38:33 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Eleutheria5

It’s unlikely that it was all done at once, if it was done at all.

It’s like the smallpox infected blankets legend. It never happened and grows in the telling. During the Pontiac Rebellion a British colonel suggested giving smallpox infected blankets to the Indians. They realized it was highly likely to backfire so the idea died. Now the US is blamed for giving the Indians smallpox.


43 posted on 11/27/2022 7:40:47 AM PST by rxh4n1
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To: Eleutheria5

I don’t know who chopped off 8,000 Native American feet in New Mexico.

The thing about oral history it does then to grow as time passes so much of real history is never known unfortunately.


44 posted on 11/27/2022 7:45:09 AM PST by Vaduz (LAWYERS )
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To: TexasFreeper2009

https://www.news-medical.net/health/History-of-Sexually-Transmitted-Disease.aspx\

In medieval times, syphilis and gonorrhoea were two of the most prevalent STDs in Europe. One theory suggest that syphilis was spread by crew members who picked up the disease on the voyages led by Christopher Columbus. They are thought to have contracted syphilis while in the Americas and to have then spread it on their return when docking at ports in Europe. Sailors are also thought to be responsible for the spread of gonorrhoea from Tahiti to New Zealand during the Cook voyages.


We killed them with disease and they killed us with disease. It was not one way.......................


45 posted on 11/27/2022 7:45:27 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Eleutheria5
The reservations where the Indians were sent “are all in States with Hispanic names: Montana, Colorado, California, New Mexico... in the north, there are none, except one for Indians who fled Canada. Why aren’t there reserves in Ohio, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Virginia, or New York? Why?”

I question the credentials of someone who tells me there are no indian reservations in New York.

46 posted on 11/27/2022 7:46:20 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (This post is subject to removal pending review by government censorship officials)
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To: Eleutheria5

Indian reservations are know as Casinos now!!!!


47 posted on 11/27/2022 8:04:26 AM PST by ontap
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To: Eleutheria5

The Indians had Neolithic technology and were hunters, gatherers, fishermen, and gardeners with stone and wooden tools.

The Europeans were farmers and herders with iron plows, hoes, and other tools, as well as draft animals for traction and transportation.

The agriculturalists produced far more calories per square mile than the hunter/gardeners. It was inevitable that they would out produce, out multiply, and take over the arable and grazing lands.

The same thing happened with the Russian expansion across north Asia, British in Australia and New Zealand, the Dutch in South Africa, the Spanish in Argentina, Chinese rice farmers in Asia, Anatolian farmers up the Danube Valley, steppe herders into Europe, and the expansion of Bantu herders across Africa.

The more productive economy wins.


48 posted on 11/27/2022 8:06:59 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: escapefromboston

bingo!

In the U.S. and Canada, the Indian population was well less than a million. Mostly, they eked out a living in the places most conducive to human habitation, in an advanced stone age civilization.

Among the things they lacked were: metal tools, the wheel, grazing animals, work animals and permanent buildings. The Indians only had garden-agriculture, not having a plow. For that matter, the vast plains were unfit for human habitation, being dominated by bison that weren’t possible to hunt prior to the white man bringing the horse and the rifle. And, most of the remainder of the east coast and the southeast were swamp lands.

The Europeans and the Indians had a lot to gain from each other, and the French, English and Dutch settlers joined in trade and other peaceful relations with Indians. Of course, wars broke out, such is the sorry history of mankind. But, these were complicated things, often involving alliances of Indians and Europeans against other alliances of Indians and Europeans.

Many of the Indians including some entire tribes assimilated into the emerging American civilization. Others were relocated to the west, something that - looking back - was wrong, although it did preserve the cultural identity of many tribes. For true Americans, the Indians are the first Americans, a great part of a great nation. What we call the Indian wars were us fighting us and, thus, civil wars. The tragedy of these wars is told in the great John Wayne movie, Red River.

When, finally, the Indian Wars were over, Chief Geronimo was honored in many parades, as a great warrior for his people and, therefore, for us, the American people. These parades are now counted as humiliation by the anti-American left. They cannot accept that we can come together after a war, not the Indian and the white man, not the Yankee and the Rebel, not the American and the Vietnamese. They criticized Reagan for laying a wreath at a memorial to the German soldier. They think we have to hate the Russians. Let’s face it. They’re not Christians and they’re not Americans.

We understand that all of us fall short of the glory of God and are in need, ourselves, of forgiveness. We also know that God has provided this forgiveness for us, and that He calls on us to love and serve one another. One day, hopefully soon, these wars will come to an end, and we - all of mankind - will look back and see them all as civil wars.


49 posted on 11/27/2022 8:07:54 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Eleutheria5

8000 feet chopped off and this is the first time I’ve ever heard of it in all my 65 years?


50 posted on 11/27/2022 8:08:04 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare its ? And the ambassador to Ukraineelf)
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To: Eleutheria5

Didn’t the Indians supposedly come from Siberia tens of thousands of years ago? So if they were originally Eurasian, what does that mean for these Cultural Marxists who hate Anglos?


51 posted on 11/27/2022 8:18:01 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Somebody has been taking peyote or something.


52 posted on 11/27/2022 8:23:48 AM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: Robert DeLong

I never heard it either, ‘til this article. But I looked it up. It would seem that somebody alleged it, but there has to be archaeological and other evidence. It does not make sense that 120 white men just rounded up 8,000 braves and started hacking away. What did they do, offer free firewater and get them drunk? Unlikely. Whatever the real story is, that one’s all wet.


53 posted on 11/27/2022 8:26:04 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: Regulator

The Apache were from the Texas panhandle area. In the 1700s, the Comanches drove the Apache out, forcing them south and west. The Comanche were simply more bad-ass than the Apache, and that takes some doing!

“Newly rich in horses and knowledge of the Spanish borderlands, in 1720 the Comanches headed east onto the Great Plains of the Southwest, where immense horse herds could be sustained on the seemingly infinite grasslands...

In their effort to monopolize the horse and bison trade and eliminate trade competition – especially for the food sources they relied on – the Comanches went to war against their main competitor on the southern plains: the Apache.

The Apache had thrived on the plains as farmers, but once they were at war those farms became a military liability. Whereas the nomadic Comanche had no farms or villages to attack, the Apache had to defend the places where they were rooted and which they counted on for food and shelter. By sweeping into Apache villages in the dark of night, destroying their food storages, killing their livestock, burning their homes, and quickly disappearing into the night, the Comanche wore down their competitors on the plains.

They combined this type of swift, guerilla style attack with massive frontal assaults that focused on killing as many Apache men and enslaving as many women and children as possible. Following a practice that was widespread amongst indigenous peoples in the region, some of these slaves were sold on the thriving New Mexican slave markets, while others were adopted or married into families and eventually became Comanches themselves.

By 1740, the Apache had been forced out of the plains regions of modern day New Mexico, Colorado, Kansas and Oklahoma. Some fled further south onto the plains of Spanish Texas, while others moved to the Rio Grande area and the contemporary U.S.-Mexico border region.”

https://crossculturalsolidarity.com/the-comanche-empire-and-the-destruction-of-northern-mexico/


54 posted on 11/27/2022 8:33:00 AM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

A Supreme Court case caused a major crisis in upstate New York real estate. The treaty between the State of New York and a tribe, I think the Oneontas, was ruled invalid, because it was not approved by Congress, which had exclusive jurisdiction to ratify treaties with native tribes under the Indian Act of 1797, and all of the real estate in their former stomping grounds became untransferable and title insurance could not be gotten for it. Doctrine of Laches, Statute of Limitations, Promissory Estoppel, even Adverse Possession were not able to get the upstate landowners and banks out of this predicament. I don’t know how it was resolved or if it was resolved. Maybe there was a cash settlement. But there you are. Nobody grabbed their guns and wiped them all out. See how nice whitey’s become?


55 posted on 11/27/2022 8:33:33 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: Eleutheria5
Location of the atrocity:



56 posted on 11/27/2022 8:36:40 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Yeah...just watched The Searchers again. There's a reason John Wayne was obsessed with killin' Comanch...
57 posted on 11/27/2022 8:44:32 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Eleutheria5

If this was in the late 80s / early 90s than I’m familiar with it as my dads family hails from there and I spent some time there newar Salamanca where my uncle lived. Salamanca was a town on indian land and they took it back. I believe after some massive discontent they determined that you could own your house but the land under it belonged to the tribe so you had to pay them something for use of it. And life went on.


58 posted on 11/27/2022 8:45:30 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (This post is subject to removal pending review by government censorship officials)
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To: Eleutheria5

Aztec Lord, “Here are 2000 Apache savages from the north to feed to Kukulkan.”

Aztec High Priest, “Thank you Lord, Kukulkan is always hungry.”


59 posted on 11/27/2022 8:48:40 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (The only good commie is one that's dead - Country Joe McDonald)
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To: Eleutheria5

A little background on the Andrew Jackson deportation.

Way back when there was a three way split. The northern tribes and the southern tribes had at some point had a vicious war, so great and murderous that what is now Kentucky, the N-S and E-W crossroads of the eastern US, was declared by them to be a “neutral zone”. No settlements or camping was permitted in the entire state.

The east coast was occupied by the Europeans, and they could make no inroads into either the north or the south. But because the east coast was full, when a large number of new immigrants, Scots Borderers, arrived, they were told to settle in Kentucky, and fortify the place. If they could keep it, it was theirs.

The French and Indian War (1754–1763) was a brutal bloodbath to the northern tribes, followed by Pontiac’s Rebellion (1763), decimated or more the northern tribes.

The southern tribes were pretty much still whole, and by the time of Andrew Jackson, he realized that unless he intervened, the pressure of new settlement in the south would result in a bloody or genocidal war.

His alternative was the Trail of Tears. He attached the US Army for the deportation, both to insure the Indians left and to protect them from harassment by settlers. And while they complain bitterly about it, the army sent with them suffered as much from cold, disease and starvation.

But it saved most of their lives and kept their tribal unity and culture intact.


60 posted on 11/27/2022 8:53:18 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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