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On a visit to Kherson, I see why the Ukrainians will win — with our support
The New York Post ^ | November 18, 2022 | Douglas Murray

Posted on 11/21/2022 5:17:02 AM PST by Timber Rattler

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To: JonPreston

You just sit tight and watch. It’s over.
32 posted on 5/26/2022, 10:38:39 AM by JonPreston


141 posted on 11/21/2022 10:44:40 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince
11/21/2022 7:55:54 AM PST · 97 of 140
FreshPrince to JonPreston

Smooch!


142 posted on 11/21/2022 10:45:30 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: FreshPrince

got some classic predictions in there!

LOL


143 posted on 11/21/2022 10:50:25 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Timber Rattler

Just remember that all of these foreign dignitaries visiting Ukraine are being handled by some of the best propagandists in the world.


144 posted on 11/21/2022 10:54:33 AM PST by elpadre (W )
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To: canuck_conservative

Yeah really. You would think they would learn to not to make such foolish predictions. Yet they persist!


145 posted on 11/21/2022 11:04:09 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: cranked; DUMBGRUNT

You left out the part about after Germany was defeated and the Russian enemy took precedence.

General Omar Bradley knew the Russians and was made the first Chairman of the NATO Military Committee.

Bradley was also a leader during the United Nations war against Russia/Red China/North Korea.

Korean United Nations war.

“Despite its denials at the time, the Soviet Union was intimately involved in the Korean War. The contribution made by the Soviets was vital. They provided diplomatic support, strategic and grand tactical planning, including the planning of the invasion of South Korea, and essential logistical support. They supplied and trained the air forces of China and North Korea. Soviet pilots flew aircraft with Chinese or North Korean markings and after the war claimed to have shot down over 400 UN aircraft.”


146 posted on 11/21/2022 11:34:22 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: McCarthysGhost

“”We keep hearing that Russia’s losing badly and Ukraine is going to win. When? When exactly? In Three months it will be the one year anniversary of this war. Ukraine has supposedly been on the cusp of winning for 6 months now. My fear is that this war will grind on for years. Or that Russia will do something drastic that will cause a broader war. Each side says their side is winning but the war grinds on and on.””

Do you realize what an extraordinary change this is? Go back and read the early threads and the world news from when this Russian takeover first started, it was expected to last a few days and then a couple of weeks to mop things up.

Today we talk about the months of Ukrainian victories, Russian humiliations, and Russia’s chaotic retreats and the possibility that the Ukrainians may even defeat what just months ago was argued as the world’s second-best military that was feared by all.

Nine months later the outcome is uncertain, that is an extraordinary and heroic, and brilliant accomplishment by Ukraine.


147 posted on 11/21/2022 11:47:58 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

As par, you typical knuckleheads SIDE STEP like faeries dancing around a bush.
WTG.


148 posted on 11/21/2022 12:08:06 PM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

That response is totally irrelevant to what I posted, childishly nasty as usual, but non-applicable.


149 posted on 11/21/2022 12:24:16 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

That responses followed by my other responses are right on target.

A dipshat drops the name General Omar Bradley failing to realize that General Omar Bradley was fighting WWII to defeat Fascism/Nazism, that which you idiots support today via Ukraine and its own Fascism/Nazism.

I know which side General Omar would be on if he was alive today and it would not be Ukraine’s.....!


150 posted on 11/21/2022 12:32:07 PM PST by cranked
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To: FreshPrince

I did say EACH side claims to be winning. We can all see that is true. There doesn’t appear to be a clear winner. This is going to be a long and protracted war and an expensive one for us with the risk of who knows what.


151 posted on 11/21/2022 12:38:32 PM PST by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: cranked

LOL Bradley would still be with America and its NATO allies, opposing Russia as he did when he was alive.


152 posted on 11/21/2022 12:45:13 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: McCarthysGhost

The other side keeps saying “its over”. The ukey side is saying they are turning back the ruasians. Facts on the ground show that russia is losing ground.


153 posted on 11/21/2022 12:48:41 PM PST by FreshPrince
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To: ansel12

Not in your wet dreams.

We observe D-Day every year for it success, at huge costs, represented the beginning of the inevitable end of Fascism/Nazism.

You, as with the dipshat and your other cohorts, are doing nothing and have been doing nothing but DISHONORING those millions and millions that fought and died fighting to defeat Fascism/Nazism!

That which you, the dipshat that brought the name of General Omar Bradley up, and your cohorts are worthless POS who repeatedly and consistently DISHONOR million and millions every day with your continued support and sympathizing of/with the Ukraine Banderist neo-Nazi Ukraine Regime.

Fact!


154 posted on 11/21/2022 12:50:01 PM PST by cranked
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“”As General Omar Bradley famously said: “Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics.”
Logistics includes speedy transport to a hospital, and not abandoning their wounded comrades and dead as they run away.””

Yep, the man who helped defeat the Germans and then spent even more years defending America from the Russians.

General Omar Bradley the first Chairman of the NATO Military Committee.
Bradley was also a leader during the United Nations war against Russia/Red China/North Korea.


155 posted on 11/21/2022 1:17:42 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: FreshPrince

Ok, now I’m going to make a prediction. This war will have no end in sight. It will go on for years and it will cost 100s of billions of dollars with upwards of a million casualties.


156 posted on 11/21/2022 1:18:22 PM PST by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: silverleaf
Why has Kiev been destroying civilian infrastructure in Donbass and Crimea for 8 years?

No evidence of this whatsoever, other than photos of buildings that turned out to be under 100% Ukrainian control. IOW, Russians have been shelling Ukraine for 8 years, and then projecting the accusation on the victims, just like Palestinian terrorists.

but not homes, schools, hospitals.

You are a clown. Large numbers of homes, schools, and hospitals have been destroyed by Russian missiles. In fact, we know for a fact that hospitals were deliberately targeted since their destruction was so systematic.

Civilians in Kiev and western Ukraine need to stop night-clubbing and nazi-saluting

Russian "separatist" leaders, all under FSB control, are all Neo-Nazis/Communists and Totalitarians of various flavors. They openly show their affiliation with Nazi symbolism, which I've posted many times on this forum.

While Russkies can point to an alleged Nazi here or there, their leadership--not just random people on the ground-- is literally Nazi and Communist.

IOW, just more projection from Russia again.

The only option their bellicose nationalist leader broadcasts

Imagine pretending Zelenskyy, a Jew of short stature whose speeches consist of calls for freedom, is some kind of "bellicose nationalist leader" like a Hitler.

Truly delusional you freaks are.

157 posted on 11/21/2022 6:45:49 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: JonPreston
As if you explaining your political proclivities

Sorry freak, but you really are turning millions of conservatives away from MAGA and the Republican party.

You make us look bad with your anti-Americanism and conspiracy theories.

158 posted on 11/21/2022 6:48:38 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I don’t care what happens to conservatives. My interest is with Americans


159 posted on 11/21/2022 8:53:26 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: marktwain

90% of Ukraians fightning men fought for the USSR. Putin doesn’t have this either


160 posted on 11/22/2022 9:53:07 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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