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Russians kill orchestra conductor for refusing to join concert in Kherson, Ukraine says
Yahoo News ^ | Sun, October 16, 2022 | Brad Dress

Posted on 10/17/2022 2:39:48 AM PDT by dennisw

Russian troops shot and killed an orchestra conductor who refused to perform at a concert Russia allegedly staged in the occupied southern region of Kherson, according to Ukrainian officials.

The Ministry of Culture and Information Policy of Ukraine said in a Facebook post that it confirmed Friday that Russian soldiers shot Yuri Kerpatenko in his own home.

Kerpatenko, the main conductor of the Gileya Chamber Orchestra, refused a Russian invitation to perform a concert with the orchestra group “to demonstrate the so-called ‘improvement of peaceful life’ in Kherson,” according to the ministry.

The late conductor was also affiliated with the Kherson Regional Philharmonic and the Mykola Kulish Kherson Music and Drama Theater in the region.

Ukrainian journalist Olena Vanina first reported the news on Thursday and was cited by the cultural ministry.

The war in Ukraine has dragged on for more than eight months and has killed thousands of Ukrainian civilians and thousands of soldiers on both sides.

Fighting continues to rage in eastern and southern region of the country, including in and around Kherson.

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To: dennisw

If true, he should have known better, much better. Same iron fist here with Biden’s crowd, e.g., IRS goes after anyone who vocally supports Conservatism or Trump.


61 posted on 10/17/2022 5:33:38 AM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: Qui is

👍🏻


62 posted on 10/17/2022 5:35:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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To: Cathi

This is a very thorough and helpful list of international politics concerning the US.
I especially enjoyed the last feature:
Palestinians don’t trust the Biden Administration or wish to rely on them, preferring instead to rely more on Russia, a nation that does not make human rights demands. This has the Biden Admin. “furious!” .

To which I say: whatever makes Biden furious has made me curious!


63 posted on 10/17/2022 5:49:44 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: dennisw

“People who aren’t gravely concerned about the rapidly escalating brinkmanship between the US and Russia simply have not spent enough time researching the facts and contemplating the reality of of what nuclear war would mean. Their composure comes solely from psychological avoidance.”

~ Caitlin Johnstone


64 posted on 10/17/2022 5:50:08 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Cathi

Excellent.


65 posted on 10/17/2022 5:52:12 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Qui is

Perfect.


66 posted on 10/17/2022 5:54:35 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Petrosius

I agree the term nazi is no more realistic than calling someone a racist. Both are terms people throw around at people who disagree with them. Seriously nazis? So Slovak people are superior in race to other Slovak people? This is all about Putin and his ego and desires and though he may eventually “win” his empire has been shown to be hollow. Resurrecting ancient T-62s getting arms from Iran and North Korea mobilizing hundreds of thousands just to defeat the small county of Ukraine. Just using the whole pinky I guess now. And in the end as is always millions will suffer and die. We have not changed and we have not learned. Remove God, destroy the family, trans the kids drug castrate and mutilate them…. satan is alive and well and evil is ruling


67 posted on 10/17/2022 5:57:02 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: jacknhoo
LOL, seriously Caitlin Johnstone? She publishes regularly for the Russian state news site RT, at least sixteen op-eds in the last year, and references directly from Russian state media.

A Closer Look at the Prose of Caitlin Johnstone by Dan Hanrahan

As has been remarked widely since the Russian invasion of Ukraine, propaganda emerges from all sides of a conflict during wartime. All of us are likely to fall prey to some deceptive or fabricated information under such circumstances. The best we can do is try to maintain a critical eye as we learn about the war. It is in this spirit that I undertook an annotation of a recent essay by the Australian writer Caitlin Johnstone, who publishes frequently at the Russian state media outlet RT, as well as at Medium and substack. Manipulation and obfuscation are so egregious in certain texts, that they require close reading and even annotation in order to reveal their actual meaning. I have found that to be the case with the essays of Caitlin Johnstone, which unfortunately often garner a large following among certain segments of the online left. The primary essay I will be looking at is titled, “Ukraine Is a Sacrificial Pawn on the Imperial Chessboard,” published on March 6, 2022, on Johnstone’s substack.

Let’s examine the first paragraph, starting with the opening sentence.

“The war is not going well for Kyiv, and it would be unreasonable to expect that to change.”

In reality, the war has not gone as well as expected for Russia, while Ukraine is performing better than expected. Johnstone is tendentious and distorting and we’re only nine words in. She includes four hyperlinks in this opening paragraph. It is instructive to click on them to determine their source and their worth. “The war is not going well” hyperlink takes one to a map tweeted out by the journalist Elijah J. Magnier, who is part of the Kuwait-based AlRai Media Group, according to his Twitter profile. Scrolling down the main page of the AlRai news site, one eventually finds an article about the Russian war on Ukraine. The roughly 100-word piece is practically devoid of information, but it does use the Kremlin-approved phrase “Russian military operation,” rather than the terms “war” & “invasion.” (Those latter two terms are now outlawed in Russian media and on social media when referring to the invasion of Ukraine and their use is punishable by up to 15 years in prison).

The map itself is an item of propaganda produced by the Russian state media company Readovka. Using the Google Chrome English translation option, I clicked on the “Empire” tab (really) of the Readovka’s main page. The propaganda style of Readovka is more of a throwback to the Soviet style, in contrast to the 21st century post-modern Shurkov approach. Articles bear headlines like “Shoigu said the operation in Ukraine will last until the goals are achieved” and “Peskov: ‘Russia will complete the demilitarization of Ukraine.’ ”

I realize that to track down the origin and scrutinize the veracity of even a couple of paragraphs of Johnstone’s references requires several hours. I’ve looked into other links in the article, but to break down a Johnstone article link by link would require, at minimum, a lengthy article of its own, while this present essay-annotation is focused on looking at broader trends in two of Johnstone’s recent essays. Nonetheless, what I can glean from my brief look into Johnstone’s references is that they are often sourced directly from Russian state media. This is unsurprising, as she publishes regularly for the Russian state news site RT, at least sixteen op-eds in the last year.

Let’s continue with the annotation.

“As a vastly superior military force overwhelms the US client state reality is in the process of crashing down hard in the face of western liberals who bought into the war propaganda that the brave, sexy comedian was leading an upset victory to kick Putin’s ass out of Ukraine.”

Catch that? Ukraine is not an independent, sovereign nation, with their own language, a 1000 year-plus cultural history and long periods of sovereign statehood along the way. The Ukraine people and nation have earned no such respect in Johnstone’s mind. They are merely a “client state” of the US. This framing is important, as it is a way of removing independent will and agency from the Ukraine people – which is essential to do when disseminating the policy of an invading state. This framing is also related to Johnstone’s support of crypto-fascist Alexander Dugin’s, (Putin’s closest ideological adviser) vision of a future “multipolar world” – as opposed to an envisioned world of free, sovereign people with no hegemonic powers or a world forged through grassroots internationalism. More on the question of multipolarity later in this piece.

The referencing of idiotic reasons for supporting a policy in US mainstream media in an attempt to paint all people who may support a particular position as idiots is a frequent rhetorical tactic of Johnstone. Yes, many American dummies, in the media and in the public, like to think of wars as professional wrestling matches – but that is irrelevant to thinking people’s belief in the right of Ukraine to remain independent and to defend itself against foreign aggression – with the negotiation of an end to the war as the primary and most urgent objective.

68 posted on 10/17/2022 6:01:57 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo

“”Right now, we’re closer to a cataclysmic nuclear war than at any other time since the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.One assessment after another has said the current situation is even more dangerous. . . Yet few members of Congress are advocating for any steps that the U.S. government could take to decrease the dangers of a nuclear conflagration. The silences and muted statements on Capitol Hill are evading the reality of what’s hanging in the balance - the destruction of almost all human life on Earth - “The end of civilization.””

- Norman Soloman


69 posted on 10/17/2022 6:07:17 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

There were people from all occupied countries that joined the German military and the ss and also joined the administration as to anti Jewish you need to look no further than the us congress to find them
What is going on now has little to do with what happened then except for how the Russians brutalized and exploited then Ukrainians before and after WW2. I can understand their hatred for Russians. The fact that there are areas of Ukraine a country that had millions killed by Russia and flooded with Russians just like many countries they occupied “voted “ join Russia and leave Ukraine is not surprising but doesn’t change the fact that the territory is Ukrainian. Oh well people will die and as a race we have not changed clubs to rockets just the technology has


70 posted on 10/17/2022 6:13:33 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: jacknhoo
- Norman Soloman

Norman Soloman, why not just post Noam Chomsky.

In 2017, Solomon co-authored RootsAction's "Autopsy" report on the Democratic Party's 2016 Presidential defeat by Republican Donald Trump. The report attributed Trump's election to Republican voter suppression efforts. Solomon was elected as a pledged Bernie Sanders delegate to the 2016 Democratic National Convention.

71 posted on 10/17/2022 6:13:54 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

The regular Wehrmacht was neck deep in atrocities.


72 posted on 10/17/2022 6:16:35 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: tlozo

“We cannot call for peace in Ukraine while simultaneously supplying that country with advanced rocket systems and missiles that could lead to a direct war between the US and Russia, the world’s most heavily armed nuclear nations. . . A new study estimates that a nuclear war would kill five billion people, over 60% of the human population, with 360 million burning up in the immediate aftermath, the rest dying from starvation during a dark subzero winter.”

- Marcy Winograd


73 posted on 10/17/2022 6:18:03 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: dennisw

Hey, Olena Vanina I’ve got this bridge for sale .....


74 posted on 10/17/2022 6:19:43 AM PDT by khelus
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To: Qui is

Remove your tagline!

Last request!


75 posted on 10/17/2022 6:24:09 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: dennisw

Ukrainian journalist Olena Vanina first reported the news on Thursday and was cited by the cultural ministry.

You don’t get a more truthy source than that.


76 posted on 10/17/2022 6:59:56 AM PDT by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: dennisw

The pro-Russia Freepers are always claiming Nazi, Nazi, Nazi. As if they have Ukrainian Nazi bees in their bonnets.

This murder of a Ukrainian orchestra conductor is something out of the pages of World War Two. This is what the real Nazis would do back then. Perform for us, amuse us, or die.

Hundreds of children are on the Ukrainian nationalist kill list.

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2022/07/15/685642/Ukrainian-nationalists-putting-children-on-kill-list


77 posted on 10/17/2022 7:02:24 AM PDT by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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To: kiryandil

Like+, and I don’t know why.


78 posted on 10/17/2022 7:43:25 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: buwaya

I smell Propaganda. Bad things happen in war—really bad things. Not everyone wants things to be right and just like Americans and most see us as hypocrites in this regard anyway. Can Americans do evil and mean things? You bet, and with gusto.


79 posted on 10/17/2022 8:38:04 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: deport

Disagreeing is one thing but some of the rhetoric is waaay overblown. I include myself. I had an in going argument with a FREEPER and we both came to the conclusion it was nuts. We keep our opinions respectful and recognize we on different sides on this one issue.


80 posted on 10/17/2022 8:49:17 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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