Posted on 10/11/2022 3:03:14 PM PDT by delta7
The West should announce it will cut off all military support for Ukraine and they should yield the Donbas to Russia since that has been Russian Territory for centuries, for Zelensky is out of his mind. This is a TV comedian who neither appreciates life nor the fact that he is pushing the entire world into war all for his demands.
Ukraine needs to replace his idiot with someone who is rational and understands that in every war, ALWAYS there are more civilian deaths than soldiers. He never changes his shirt all to pretend he is at war, hiding in his bunker while he puts his entire country at risk for land that was entitled to vote for their separation which was the Minsk Agreement.
This many will cause nuclear war in the United States. He is totally insane and has openly refused to negotiate any peace until Putin is overthrown. If that happens, the real hardlines will come and his bunker will not save his ass from a major direct nuclear attack.
I am very familiar with the seething hatred between Ukrainians and Russians. It was that same hatred of Serbs that launched World War I and 7% of the world population died. Those who cheer Ukraine on, will not be armchair generals in this war. He is bringing it to every continent and to a neighborhood near you.
I warned from the start – this guy will start World War III. Are you willing to lose everything for the Donbas in all countries?
NOBODY will even talk about peace anymore. Schwab – you better tell your monkey to back off. Geneva is on the hit list.
General Turgidson…..
I’m just trying to do my part for peace.
Neither of those are reasons for invading a neighboring country which you have gauranteed the borders of.
It is as if Americans living in Mexico tried to secede, then, when they were being beat, asked the U.S. government to help them.
Then the U.S. invades, after guaranteeing the border.
In Texas, the secessionist movement occurred after the bigger country, Mexico, reneged on its promises and underwent significant regime change.
Ukraine was never a threat to Russia.
I just recall that at the time, it seemed silly to me. Maybe that's because I don't look at things the way a paranoid Russian would.
Very reasonable for Mark Twain sipping coffee in Hannibal Missouri. Not for Russia whose vulnerable southern borders are 70 miles from their oil fields. Our aggressive posture all over the world for the last 22 years has convinced them they are in an existential fight.
A pox on both sides
and God save the innocent civilians.
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Amen. Both Zelensky and Vlad are evil. We are witnessing a Biblical hallmark: Evil is destroying evil. Support neither one.
Putin decided to invade the Ukraine. He amassed about
100 to 150 thousand troops on the border with the Ukraine
and invaded.
At this point Putin’s losses have been so severe, he’s
trying to gather up another 300 thousand troops.
He has destroyed a lot of the Ukraine, and has undoubtedly
killed thousands of Ukrainians, if not tens of thousands.
We may be looking at 50 to 75 thousand deaths so far, but
you’re not concerned about what Putin might do.
Surely you must see some humor in that.
Russia is no longer Communist, but it didn’t discard any
of the old guard to come up with it’s new government when
the USSR failed.
Nobody lost their job in government. They’re all the same
people except for those who have died and been replaced.
You have the same military mindset. You have the ex KGB
leader who now runs the nation.
So how many nations and hundreds of thousands do you wish
to disappear/die before you start seeing some possible
danger from Putin getting his way?
Oh, during the "War on Terror".
We cooperated with Russia, for a while, against the Muslim terrorist threat. The Chechan war was sold, in part, on the Muslim terror threat from Chechnya.
When Russia was most vulnerable, we and NATO did nothing to harm them.
Instead, we and Europe helped them recover from decades of Communism.
We even refused to come and get the KGB records, when they were offered to us.
We allowed the Russians to come to parity in space, when we could have controlled a monopoly of it.
Yes, the Russians (at least the leadership) seem to have fantasies about reality.
The last seven months have been very revealing.
I expect the next seven months to be just as revealing.
Have you read the 2019 Rand Corporation Report on Russia? It broadcasted our intentions
In reading the close caption of the Z speech a few times, I saw no request of NATO to nuke russia. Request if a pre-emptive action to neutralize russian nukes. Maybe the folks putting the close captions in forgot some of the translation, but a call for pre-emptive action without expressly calling for NATO nukes implies use of conventional means. I’m sure this video snippet was not the whole speech so maybe the nuke request was in there somewhere, just not in the sample provided.
SPJNK.
It takes a great deal of men to throw back an invading army, and you could see why they don't want to be put into that position.
Still talking like a repressed gay?
Wonder why
How can you talk to idiots that say Russia needed to invade Ukraine because of United States actions for the last 22 years?
And they go on and on about Russia’s vulnerabilities boo hoo hoo.
So vulnerable they launched a war.
These people are real kooks, somehow fantasizing they are on the Russian side.
Putin is so vulnerable he invaded his neighbor and has been threatening nuclear strikes for almost a year now.
The people you’re trying to reason with actually believe they are supporting Russia in a grand war against homosexuality, globalism, and to support Christianity.
They are completely deluded.
Christianity - Putin is using Asian and Syrian Islamists to kill Christian Europeans.
Globalism - Can you imagine the global order being planned by the dictators in Russia and China?
Homosexuality - Give me a frigging break. Putin would pee his pants laughing at people who believe he launched a military invasion of Ukraine, of all places - to battle gays.
They’re nuts.
It is amusing.
50=75 thousand deaths later, and I just spoke to one person
who actually said they wanted to wait and see what Putin does,
before they judge him to be a threat.
I mentioned all the nations Putin and his generals have
verbally attacked like they were the Ukraine before he
invaded.
One was Poland. Poland is on the border of Germany.
I mentioned that Russia would then be on the very border
with Germany. Of course the U.S. and Germany have not
threatened to occupy territory right next to Russia, but
of course Russia on Germany’s border shouldn’t be
considered a threat evidently.
This person had no problem with that.
Russia has a dwindling population. I think Putin wants the manpower of Ukraine, as well as strategic location, energy resources, VAST agricultural output.
But these folks will tell you Putin attacked a worthless country because of (pick one)
George Soros
Scary Joe Biden (you know, the one who ran from Afghanistan and made it clear he wouldn’t fight Russia)
Gays
globalists
Biolabs
And an all time favorite - Ukraine is really Russia and the Ukrainians WANT to be invaded.
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