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AK-19 rifle for NATO cartridge draws foreign customers’ great attention — Kalashnikov
Tass ^ | September 23, 2022

Posted on 09/23/2022 6:29:23 PM PDT by Navy Patriot

The Kalashnikov assault rifle, chambered for the 5.56x45 mm NATO caliber cartridge, has aroused great interest among foreign customers, the president of the Kalashnikov concern, Alan Lushnikov, told TASS.

"The assault rifle [AK-19 chambered for the NATO cartridge] is of great interest to various foreign customers," he said.

The AK-19 assault rifle was created on the basis of the AK-12, approved for use by the Russian Armed Forces in 2018.

(Excerpt) Read more at tass.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ak12
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To: Navy Patriot

Uncle Sam will buy ammo for you.


21 posted on 09/23/2022 7:32:09 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Navy Patriot
"The AK-19 assault rifle was created on the basis of the AK-12,..."

Description of the AK-12 by an experienced soldier (at 2:41).

https://youtu.be/jhQS4CGkblU?t=161

22 posted on 09/23/2022 7:32:25 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Navy Patriot

LOL... right?


23 posted on 09/23/2022 7:34:11 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Navy Patriot

I must need an education

I was under the impression that the design perfection of the AK’s was in using the bullet taper to make the gas seal, instead of the rim around the primer. This design allowed the bullet to use cheaper powder, and cheaper parts compared to the much tighter specs required for our AR’s

Does the 5.56mm NATO round allow for the same operating design? If so, why aren’t we using this method? Or am I misinformed? I love shooting, but am a novice


24 posted on 09/23/2022 7:34:12 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Kartographer

Same...gonna need it for squirrels and such...


25 posted on 09/23/2022 7:35:15 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken.)
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To: central_va

“I like how the buffer spring on the AK is not in ther rear stock like it is on the AR”.

That is an advantage to ease facilitate the equipping of AK variants with a folding stock, but the downside is that they do not have the feature of near in line with the stock axis movement of the recoiling parts which, in addition to the low recoil impulse of the 5.56 cartridge, makes the AR/M16 variants so controllable, particularly when firing in automatic or burst mode.


26 posted on 09/23/2022 7:37:28 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: DMZFrank
particularly when firing in automatic or burst mode.

Which, by unconstitutional law, I am not allowed to do.

27 posted on 09/23/2022 7:39:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

I’m told the rear axle of the Soviet version of the jeep, the Zil, was welded directly to the frame.

Springs are for sissies...


28 posted on 09/23/2022 7:44:03 PM PDT by null and void (Can't hear the Rod Serling narration? You are not in the audience. You are a part of the story.)
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To: central_va

The SCOTUS Bruen decision has placed the NFA of 1934 in serious jeopardy, so that proscription against select fire weapons may be mooted soon.

In the meantime, the straight line recoil of the AR is a great help for re-acquiring the sight picture for follow up shots in semi-auto rapid fire.


29 posted on 09/23/2022 7:54:07 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: DMZFrank
In the meantime, the straight line recoil of the AR is a great help for re-acquiring the sight picture for follow up shots in semi-auto rapid fire.

I've never fired an AK so I can't compare the two in that regard.

30 posted on 09/23/2022 7:56:42 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Hodar
When a cartridge is fired...any cartridge...the brass balloons to the contours of the chamber. The advantage an AK has in in the “slop” of loose tolerances. As it expands when heating, it will not seize up like an AR (M-4) will.

AK-103 torture test.

31 posted on 09/23/2022 7:56:47 PM PDT by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Navy Patriot

You gotta see this:

https://faxonfirearms.com/86blk/


32 posted on 09/23/2022 8:01:32 PM PDT by anton
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To: central_va

I have fired hundreds of rounds on full auto thru AK-47’s and AK74’s. Due to the stock axis being significantly below the line of sight when you shoulder it, the gun twists up and to the right much more significantly than an AR. But since it’s intermediate cartridges (7.62x39 or 5.45x39) are relatively low in recoil, with short bursts and sufficient training, the AK is OK in this regard.

It is just much easier to learn to do well with the AR.


33 posted on 09/23/2022 8:27:24 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: anton
VERY interesting, I found a picture of the loaded round:

The 8.6 Creedmoor BLK on the left, and a 300BLK on the right.

Can't confirm the weight of the 338 projectile, but it looks like a fairly heavy one.

8.6 Creedmoor or 8.6 BLK or 8.6 Blackout

34 posted on 09/23/2022 8:40:51 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Hodar
I was under the impression that the design perfection of the AK’s was in using the bullet taper to make the gas seal, instead of the rim around the primer. This design allowed the bullet to use cheaper powder, and cheaper parts compared to the much tighter specs required for our AR’s

Does the 5.56mm NATO round allow for the same operating design? If so, why aren’t we using this method? Or am I misinformed?

This is actually a little beyond my expertise, I'll have to ask for FR experts to chime in.

35 posted on 09/23/2022 8:51:15 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot; Azeem
It is an AK-12 in 5.45x39mm. The AK-12 had a long and troubled development and there are many unfavorable reviews.

9-Hole Review: The AK12 - A failure to modernize.
Brandon Herrera: The AK-12: Russia's New Combat Rifle
Polenar Tactical: AK-12 Russian Assault Rifle
Military Arms Channel: The AK-12 sucks, the Bulgarian solution
Wikipedia entry, covering the timeline:AK-12

When Brandon "The AK Guy" Herrera has a hard time showing enthusiasm over a Russian gun, it has problems.

36 posted on 09/23/2022 9:09:58 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni 🇺🇦 - Just say no to CCCP 2.0)
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To: Hodar

With a tapered cartridge, I think it’s less likely to have a round get stuck in the chamber when the gun is hot and dirty. They use steel case ammo coated with lacquer or something like it that can build-up. For correct feeding, you need that “banana clip”.


37 posted on 09/23/2022 9:25:28 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: Chode

.308 no substitute...

Yes and no. It all depends on how far away is the target. Both are most excellent. I have a few in both.


38 posted on 09/24/2022 12:07:14 AM PDT by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST)
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To: Hodar

Taper doesn’t help it seal better, it helps it extract better. 5.56x45 also tapers. The NATO cartridge doesn’t taper as much as the old Soviet round, but the newer 5.45 which replaced the 7.62x39 also has much less taper than the older cartridge.


39 posted on 09/24/2022 12:42:32 AM PDT by Brass Lamp
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To: Navy Patriot

Relative is making the barrels. I can tell you they are pretty excited about the 3x twist.


40 posted on 09/24/2022 5:30:30 AM PDT by anton
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