Posted on 08/08/2022 8:05:26 AM PDT by tanstaafl.72555
The problem is that people in office don't follow it.
That gives me little hope that those same people would follow a rewritten version, and that version would just mean new angles for those Hell-bent on circumventing it.
Fifty years ago, perhaps, when we had scholars who were not just parrots for one special interest or another, indoctrinated from K through University, perhaps then we could have rewritten parts of the Constitution with greater specificity to reduce the workarounds that have seriously damaged States Rights, but now? No.
Repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments, and follow the rest.
This crap article is projection, pure and simple.
Conservatives only want EVERYONE to adhere to the Constitution.
Leftists view the Constitution as an obstacle that must be worked around, subverted, circumvented, ignored, and avoided.
Hell, if we had our way, we would have a convention to insert new amendments stipulating concrete penalties for deliberate sabotage, but...as always, WE would never enforce it even when it was 100% needed and warranted, and THEY would militarize it against their political opponents.
So, the answer would be no, I guess.
Maybe the US Constitution, as written, isn’t perfect.
However, I doubt a rewrite would make it better. Much more likely is it will be worse, in ways we won’t know until it happens.
The idea of Conservatism is to conserve that which is good and not replace it with a potential better solution or system.
If this happens, we’ll look back at the “old” Constitution, and wish we could have it back, but then it will be too late.
I am confused. You reference the good old Constitution..... do you mean the one WITH article V — which is ignored, or some other document?
What you fear is already here. The Left has gotten you to fear the cure, which was written into the Constitution by the Founders.
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I agree.
Article V is the
” pull in case of rogue fed”
emergency brake.
More specifically, ALL the states can effectively "secede" from the unconstitutionally big federal government, putting a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes by doing so, with an amendment that does nothing more than repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular vote for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A).
Little or no discussion would be required for such an amendment imo.
Unconstitutional federal taxing and spending is whatever taxes the very corrupt, alleged election-stealing, desperate Democratic-pirated Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and other constitutionally enumerated expenses.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.In fact, the congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, had clarified that the delegates to the Constitutional Convention had left the care of the people uniquely to the states, not the feds.
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
Once 16&17A are gone, unconstitutional federal taxes permanently stopped, each state will ultimately find a tsunami of new revenues (imo) that can be used to increase teacher salaries, also salaries of police and fire departments for starters.
Let's also include new state funding for infrastructure maintenance in that list. Undoubtedly many other state social spending programs as well to replace former unconstitutional federal spending programs.
Additionally, no more forced compliance with Democratic politically correct but unconstitutional federal gender-related civil rights protections in order for school kids to eat likewise unconstitutional federal lunches paid for with stolen state revenues for example.
In fact, Justice Louis Brandeis had seemingly reflected on Bingham's words (above) when Brandeis volunteered his "laboratories of democracy" metaphor to emphasize the power of the states to serve the people, ultimately depending on the kind of state social spending programs that the legal majority citizen voters of a given state want.
"[...] a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country." —Justice Louis Brandeis, Laboratories of Democracy.
Corrections, insights welcome.
why?
what part of the Constitution does not work?
are the christian nationslists/dominionists aytempting to change the 1sr amendment to disallow other citizens - not christian?
why?
I see some confusing responses in here:
1) People are claiming we should OBEY the constitution, rather than “re-writing” it. No one is proposing we “re-write” it. No one. Your hysterical fears notwithstanding, we are arguing that following the specifice mandated IN the constitution provide far better “protections” for it than hobgoblins of paranoid fantasies born out of ignorance.
2) The people talking the loudest about “following” the Constitution are actually arguing we should ignore its own internal guidelines to avoid what has already happened, and ignore its on prescription for how to reverse this, which is the transfer of power to a federal imperium.
This strikes me as most odd, like someone saying “WE ARE FOR THE CONSTITUTION!!!... just not THAT part of the Constitution”
Amusing if it weren’t so harmful.
Wow that’s crazy. Scary too. Thanks for posting. I don’t remember that happening.
This is so scary.
We should all go and hide under a rock until the election is over and the constitution gets rewritten.
Nonsensical bullshit.
I find your argument both confusing and amusing. The individual state does not call for a generic convention to decide whatever the delegetes agree on. For your nightmare scenario to happen, 31 states would have to call for a convention and then say “hey, we are not sure why we are calling this, so why don’t you guys just come up with something. Nothing specific. We are sure we will like it. Just go vote and make things better.”
The states do not commission the delegates to bring up whatever suits their fancy. They are DELEGATED (that word has a meaning) to present the argument that the STATE LEGISLATOR (which has control over the appointment of the delegate) has enumerated. The delegate has authority to do that, and nothing else.
If s/he were to do “something else” then the state could recall the delegate and revoke his/her delegated powers OR could simply not vote to confirm whatever mess this “runaway convention” came up with.
Have you ever heard of Michael Farris?
Well, repealing the 17th amendment probably wouldn’t change much.
It’s the 19th that’s got to go.
tanstaafl.72555 wrote: “An Article 5 convention is within reach, potentially ROLLING BACK the accretion of power to DC in a manner that makes Justice Thomas look like a cheerleader from the stands. This is the last best hope for the true restoration of the USA as a REPUBLIC.”
Do the liberals in the blue states get a vote?
That was an excellent post. Thank you.
The math does not look promising unless some states switch their position. I am on the fence as to the pros and cons of the idea.
The most obvious amendment to propose through a convention of the states is term limits on Congressman and Senators, as it is obvious that the Congress will never propose such a amendment.
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With a “grandfather clause” in it, excluding all current sitting senators and reps it might and the goal would be achieved in due time.
I think you meant blue state, where the reds are.
I agree with you. I’ve been trying to warn folks also.
In theory that is supposed not to be possible, but haven’t people
noticed by now the Communists do not adhere to the constitution?
What part of this have our people missed in recent years.
Subversion is the only constant now.
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