Germans could switch to wood this winter to heat their homes as Russia withholds natural gas, Deutsche Bank says

Yahoo ^ | July 13, 2022 | Brian Evans

[george76]

Germany could embrace wood for heat if Russia further cuts gas flows, Deutsche Bank says.

The bank said in a note that it expects German demand for gas to fall 10% below 2021 levels.

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German households could turn to wood as a heating source this winter as gas supplies remain tight while Russia restricts flows to Europe,

Deutsche Bank .. expects gas consumption in Germany to be 10% below 2021 levels thanks to private households saving and high gas prices. It also noted that coal and lignite could emerge as replacements for natural gas in the industrial power sector.

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Deutsche's latest reading comes as Europe braces for a potentially colder winter than normal

[zeestephen]

The USA - before Biden - was selling several billion dollars a year of wood chips to Europe.

Europe classifies our wood chips as a renewable resource - wood smoke be damned!

If those chips come from federal land, Biden has probably choked off that supply, too.

[Arlis]

Been heating with wood for 50 years - live in hardwood forest, log home I built with my own hands that has a fireplace furnace. Have all the wood I need just from trees that die around me. I don’t cut live standing hardwood.

Most Euro homes not 50 or more years old have no way to heat with wood. Not only is a wood burning stove (or equal) needed, so is the chimney to take gases out. This requires a roof or wall penetration.

Yes, I suspect the wood stove market will explode along with installation services. And demand will far exceed supply.

Then where does the dried, seasoned hardwood come from? You cannot use conifers for firewood in stoves - burns too hot too fast.

Will be interesting.

[fruser1]

Instead of Jews, they should start burning environmentalists.

[Not_Who_U_Think]

“Plenty of wood if you pry the shingles off your neighbor’s house.”

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Heh. So true.

We are entering the foothills of desperation one this one. Encouraging people to use old fireplaces will cause more problems than it will solve, IMHO.

[moviefan8]

I have a fireplace but can’t use it because of spare the air days during wintertime.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Great idea! A win-win-win all the way around. California gets its horrendous forest floor fuel load cleaned up to end out+of-control forest fires, Germans get to stay warm this winter, and the USA reduces its balance of payments deficit.

[Beagle8U]

I think the old figure used was it takes 10-15 acres of woods to heat a home without the fear of ever running out.

[rdcbn1]

This is hysterical. I have been telling people sarcastically that if you want a climate emergency and massive pollution,enforce draconian global warming energy restrictions and watch hundreds of millions of people forced to chop down wood for fires to keep from freezing. The smoke pollution will be chocking and with current population densities forests will not last long before they are all chopped down. Gaia will be devastated and it will take them generations to recover. Coal, oil, gas and clean nuclear power are Gaia's best friend because billions of cold, hungry and desperate people rape the environment to survive with no regard to the damage they do. Greta Thuneberg will be sharpening the first axe. In a freezing winter, a spectacular old growth tree is nothing more than a month of warmth and comfort to a freezing family. And god help any greenie who gets in the way of a father cutting down at tree to save his family from freezing. The green philosophy only works in a wealthy, decadent society that has spent too so much time self actualizing that they have totally lost touch with the lower level items on Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs and with reality itself. Ironic that Germany was at the forefront of the Green Revolution and they are going to be among the fisrt to have reality imposed as they get knocked down the list to Maslow’s much more basic and fundamental list of needs . Little taken for granted things like water, food and warmth.

[rdcbn1]

In Stalingrad, they were eating the wall paper paste off off the walls before they tore them down for wood to burn.

[rdcbn1]

It's ok because The EPA Declared That Burning Wood Is Carbon Neutral.

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Of course, they neglected to factor in the loss of the trees CO2 conversion via photosynthesis. The irrational and unworkable fundamental internal contradictions of the Green Agenda are getting exposed as the unworkable fantasy that it is. The only question left is how much damage wil be done before reality hits and people figure out haw badly they are being led on.

[niteowl77]

Suddenly it's like old times: Germans and Ukranians united against the Russian hordes, socialist ideologues "recommending" the energy-deprived Volk turn to Holzgas...

[Liaison]

Oh there goes the greenie neighborhoods. Burning wood is the worst air pollution by woke standards. This story just makes puppies cry and cats run in circles. Sniff.

[philled]

Sanctuary fades, congregation splits…

[Pollard]

The dark green is treed areas. Doesn't look like enough to me.

[BobL]

“I think the old figure used was it takes 10-15 acres of woods to heat a home without the fear of ever running out.”

Thanks, and chances are that hasn’t changed much, if at all.

Now if forests were treated as crops for the purpose of firewood, that number likely could be much lower, but it’s too late for that in Germany, at least.

[dennisw]

Alot of wood. If live trees, they take about a year to dry out for firewood. I used to go through about 7 cords a winter in north Idaho. About like Germany, only warmer.

I have burned many (free) green wood for heat. Years ago. You just have to be careful with your stove pipe and monitor it for carbon accumulation.

[Pollard]

Glad I live where there's not many rules but there are a whole lot of trees.

Wood is our only heat source. Do German people even know how to light and maintain a fire in a wood stove? I suppose most will end up with automated pellet stoves and Germany will just import pellets instead of gas.

[dennisw]

“Air pollution - way to go libtards”

Greenies and their CO2 obsession are what is ruining this civilized world. I have 15 fruit trees outside that I take care of so my eco- credentials are order. I sell the fruits.

[Gaffer]

I lived in England in 1975-1976. Had a house that was all electric (damned expensive) but it did have one little boiler in the hallway downstairs that heated a panel in the dining room AND aided the electric water heater to fill an attic mounted tank.

I used to buy bags of anthracite coal and ran that in the little boiler to have plenty of hot water and heat up things a bit. Burned clean, not much ash at all. Only trouble was getting a pre-fire going to light it up. For that, I had several pallets in the garage that I used to bust up with a small hand axe the wife bought me in Banbury. I still have the axe and the wife...

[SheepWhisperer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that’s all fine and good end all, but what long-time freepers REALLY want to know is...

How’s it going Deep In The Hurtgen Forrest?

Keeping the main thing, the main thing here freeps!

...that is all