Is it supposed to be colorful to sound exotic or foreign?
Posted on 07/18/2022 3:42:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway
The case of a New York bodega clerk who was charged with murder after he fatally stabbed a man who confronted him at work — in an altercation recorded on video — has sparked a vigorous debate about crime and what constitutes self-defense.
SNIP
To prove self-defense outside the home under New York law, a person must — broadly speaking — show that they used physical force “to avoid an imminent public or private injury,” in a situation not of their own making, “which is of such gravity that, according to ordinary standards of intelligence and morality,” the benefit of avoiding that injury outweighs the benefit of avoiding the use of physical force in the first place.
New York law also imposes a “duty to retreat.” This means that if someone believes they are in danger of imminent injury outside their home, they must first try to get out of that situation — by fleeing the scene, for example — before they respond. This is different from other states’ “stand your ground” laws.
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“New York bodega worker’s murder charge sparks self-defense debate”
Yup. So do you obey the useless cops when they show up after the fact to arrest and prosecute the victim who defended themselves or do you defend yourself from the NYPD, too?
It’s a valid question and a subject of debate.
Duty to retreat? In a situation where the guy had him cornered in a tight space, the worker had a duty to retreat from his attacker?
Is it supposed to be colorful to sound exotic or foreign?
There's only a duty to retreat if it's possible.
More relevant to this case, you can only use deadly force to defend against a deadly force attack.
With a young fit man against an elderly man, the young man’s fists are a deadly weapon.
You have to run and if the bad guy catches you or kills you, the press and Democrats will say you weren’t fast enough.
“Duty to Retreat” under NY Law is the functional equivalent of “Obligation to Die.
Hence I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by six.
A Bodega is different from a neighborhood convenience store. The word Bodega has most probably been in common usage in cities for maybe 75 years. It is not a such a foreign word.
AFAIAC the prosecutors involved in this case should be drawn and quartered on the public square as a lesson to other prosecutors.
Take Your Beating Act of 2022.
That’s “BO-giddy” to you, peasant.
I kept hearing about bodegas on Blue Bloods. I assumed they were whore houses.
How is it different?
Bodega is the Spanish word for "warehouse." When Spanish-speaking people began arriving in New York in large numbers during the first half of the 20th Century, they brought this word with them to describe small stores selling a variety of items including packaged food, beverages, cigarettes, newspapers, and candy. When prohibition was repealed, these stores also began stocking beer; some also sold fresh and prepared food like sandwiches, produce, milk, flowers, and eggs. As the Spanish-speaking population of New York continued to expand, the word bodega began to be used outside Hispanic communities, where it was used interchangeably with other terms, including ones that referred to a store by what it sold ("candy store," "newsstand," "optimo," etc.) But critically, when a New Yorker hears the word "bodega" he also pictures a specific style of store design. This includes red and yellow awnings ("cold cuts and cold beer"), a variety of window ads, and a small sign advertising the presence of an ATM in back. The stores are usually small and often (but not always) on a corner. Inside we are not surprised to find a resident cat, slightly dusty groceries, and a few neighborhood guys bullshitting about current events. The proprietor is often behind the register, but is no longer always Puerto Rican. In bodegas with Muslim owners, beer is usually not sold, and instead you find a wider selection of non-alcoholic beverages.
Cops aren’t bodyguards...
If you want a cop to be with you 24/7 you’re talking 3 shifts - 7 days a week. Couple hundred thousand for each citizen’s protection? And just where is the money for that unicorn protection going to come from?
Really, get real.
Pay attention. I don’t want the idiot cops arresting people who defend themselves from criminals.
No one needs cops like that.
> AFAIAC the prosecutors involved in this case should be drawn and quartered on the public square as a lesson to other prosecutors.
I recall reading recently about a Babylonian judge a few thousand or so years ago who was a crook. He was skinned alive and his skin was used to upholster the chair that his successor used when he sat for trial.
As far as I know the new guy did not make the same mistake.
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