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Fmr U.S. Attorney Jay Town says 'floating abortion clinic' still illegal – 'Getting cute with the law is going to fail'
1819 News ^ | July 12, 2022 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 07/12/2022 8:17:47 AM PDT by Rufus2007

A $20 million proposal to put an abortion clinic off the coast of Alabama in federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico will not work, according to former U.S. Attorney Jay Town.

During an interview with Mobile radio FM Talk 106.5's "The Jeff Poor Show" on Monday, the former U.S. Attorney for Alabama's Northern District said although the act of abortion, prohibited in Alabama by the 2019 Human Life Protection Act, would be committed in federal waters, the host vessel would still be governed by law from the state of which it had departed.

According to Town, the gesture proposed by a San Francisco-based obstetrician and gynecologist and University of California San Francisco professor Dr. Meg Autry was "getting cute with the law."

(Excerpt) Read more at 1819news.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: abortion; alabama; jaytown; megautry; murdernavy; prolife; sanfrancisco; thejeffpoorshow
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These people in the media act like this was a stroke of genius to have a floating abortion barge...
1 posted on 07/12/2022 8:17:47 AM PDT by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007

License is with the state


2 posted on 07/12/2022 8:19:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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Sink the libtard death barges 🤪


3 posted on 07/12/2022 8:20:39 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: Rufus2007

The Left feels that it can violate the law because Reasons.


4 posted on 07/12/2022 8:21:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. It's "whatever".)
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...the host vessel would still be governed by law from the state of which it had departed.

All their murder barge has to do is depart from NY, right?
5 posted on 07/12/2022 8:22:41 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: Rufus2007

From a email newsletter originating from the same radio station, there’s also this:

‘State Senator Chris Elliott (R-Daphne, AL) also reacted, calling the project a “publicity stunt.” He went on to add, “One of the problems with trying to get around state law by going offshore is you have to come back to port. You cannot break state law and then come back to port where you have broken the law. That would preclude more Gulf Coast area[s].”’


6 posted on 07/12/2022 8:23:02 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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I am stunned by the financial resources the baby killing industry seems to have.


7 posted on 07/12/2022 8:23:40 AM PDT by Spok (Don’t pee down my leg and tell me it’s raining.)
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I am stunned by the financial resources the baby killing industry seems to have.


You shouldn’t be. It’s our money.


8 posted on 07/12/2022 8:25:21 AM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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9 posted on 07/12/2022 8:26:47 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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I hope they do it so we can go McHale’s Navy on their A$$e$. See how good their seamanship is after we launch torpedoes on them!


10 posted on 07/12/2022 8:27:51 AM PDT by gr8eman (Abortion! It's just a murderous ghoul thing!)
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To: \/\/ayne

Nothing a good Cat 5 Hurricane won’t take care of.


11 posted on 07/12/2022 8:28:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Rufus2007

If the laws don’t apply in international waters then what would stop someone, anyone, from sinking the atrocity?


12 posted on 07/12/2022 8:29:11 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Spok

Taxpayer-funded resources.


13 posted on 07/12/2022 8:29:43 AM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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So why couldn’t they port out of NY or VA?


14 posted on 07/12/2022 8:30:04 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Rufus2007; JLS; bamahead; EdReform; saleman; Southack; kosciusko51; Bryan24; blam; Jemian; ...

Ping to the state list.

I’m not sure I agree with this ruling. A state’s jurisdiction ends at the border or the territorial waters’ limit. To put it a bit differently, when I’m in Indonesia, I am not subject to US law although I originated in the US. I need to think this through a bit more.


15 posted on 07/12/2022 8:32:30 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle! It is great to be an Auburn Tiger.)
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This AG is right that a US flagged vessel inside Federal territorial waters would be subject to USC code while inside those waters and also state law while inside the 3 nm state submerged lands zone and if that US flagged vessel is chartered or licenced for local state use then that chartered state laws apply.

What he let out is that foreign flagged vessels while on the high seas outside a nation states territorial waters is sole bound to only the flag States laws as defined by the UNLOS treaty that nearly every nation is a part of. The USA holds territorial waters out too 12nm and asserts supremacy over the contiguous zone out to 24 nm. A foreign flagged vessel inside of 24 miles but outside of 3nm would solely be subject to USC code and totally out if jurisdiction of a States civil or penal code unless they make a port call and cross into that States submerged lands zone inside of 3nm. For ships outside 24 miles only the UNLOS applies as the USA has no jurisdiction over foreign flagged vessels on the high seas outside our territorial waters. Those ships are subject only to their flag countries laws and if that country is a party to the UNLOS then those international laws apply as agreed in the treaty with its flagged host nation.

Given that a citizen of the United States has a fundamental constitutional right to leave a state or the USA at will there is no way a state can stop someone from leaving their jurisdictions.


16 posted on 07/12/2022 8:33:09 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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I think he heard it on the ‘X’.


17 posted on 07/12/2022 8:35:03 AM PDT by Stosh
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Remember the second most important liberal dictum: “The Law? We don’t need no stinkin’ law.”


18 posted on 07/12/2022 8:35:42 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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You cannot break state law and then come back to port where you have broken the law.

Would be really great is all the abortion loving, crazy far left women moved to San Francisco PERMANENTLY and took up relationships with the massive numbers of homeless creeps there.

19 posted on 07/12/2022 8:37:40 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: bk1000

International piracy laws for one. Pirates can be captured by a flagged ship on the high seas tried and executed on the spot. The UNLOS is clear what piracy is.

Here is a refresher course. It’s not just sinking or harming a ship it’s also impeding it’s functions as that’s a depredation of it’s value and revenue stream or any act of violence against a ships crew while in commission of their duties on a ship. Illegal boarding is a death penalty offence and boarders are to be shot on sight.

“The definition of the crime of piracy is contained in article 101 of UNCLOS, which reads as follows:

‘’Piracy consists of any of the following acts:
(a) any illegal acts of violence or detention, or any act of depredation, committed for private ends by the crew or the passengers of a private ship or a private aircraft, and directed:
(i) on the high seas, against another ship or aircraft, or against persons or property on board such ship or aircraft;
(ii) against a ship, aircraft, persons or property in a place outside the jurisdiction of any State;
(b) any act of voluntary participation in the operation of a ship or of an aircraft with knowledge of facts making it a pirate ship or aircraft;
(c) any act of inciting or of intentionally facilitating an act described in subparagraph (a) or (b).’’”

“UNCLOS provides that all States have an obligation to cooperate to the fullest possible extent in the repression of piracy (art. 100) and have universal jurisdiction on the high seas to seize pirate ships and aircraft, or a ship or aircraft taken by piracy and under the control of pirates, and arrest the persons and seize the property on board (art. 105). Article 110, inter alia, also allows States to exercise a right of visit vis-à-vis ships suspected of being engaged in piracy.


20 posted on 07/12/2022 8:37:42 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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