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Biden officials privately doubt that Ukraine can win back all of its territory
CNN ^ | 6/28/22 | Natasha Bertrand

Posted on 06/28/2022 8:18:42 AM PDT by JonPreston

White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian “victory” – adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biden; cnn; doubt; nastybertrand; natashabertrand; ukraine; xinn
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To: Erik Latranyi
I expect Biden to push Ukraine to drag it out past November to prevent the blowback.

Doc Jill found blowback this morning after breakfast.

The Short Bus One changing table gets a real workout, daily.

21 posted on 06/28/2022 8:39:47 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: JonPreston

cnn throwing Brandon and Z under the bus...sad for them


22 posted on 06/28/2022 8:40:03 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: JonPreston

They CAN win back their territory - when they can occupy Moscow and impose a new government.


23 posted on 06/28/2022 8:40:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: SoConPubbie

Which also means that the 40 billion for weapons (SPIT) was nothing more than laundered money for politicians off shore bank accounts!! WHY when Rand Paul wanted accountability was EVERYONE SCREAMING we don’t have time for that!!!


24 posted on 06/28/2022 8:40:09 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Petrosius

Wrong. NATO expansion started this war and that’s on Biden and his Neocons.


25 posted on 06/28/2022 8:40:40 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Funny how few of the FR Uke Gang have enlisted to go fight the evil Putin.


26 posted on 06/28/2022 8:40:53 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Jim Noble

Any day now!


27 posted on 06/28/2022 8:41:26 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

If we stayed out of Ukraine’s affairs in 2014 all this would have been avoided.


28 posted on 06/28/2022 8:41:47 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: JonPreston
and with Macron’s oil statement today it didn’t go well.

Are you talking about The Mighty Russian Oil Price Cap that the economic children of the West are dreaming about?

29 posted on 06/28/2022 8:44:08 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Sacajaweau

Our Treasury Dept’s printing presses are already beginning to print-up the TRILLIONS to store on pallets in the govt warehouses, of which a small portion will go to rebuild the country, after all the pay-offs are made.


30 posted on 06/28/2022 8:44:33 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: JonPreston
Wrong. NATO expansion started this war and that’s on Biden and his Neocons.

Then why does not Russia go back home now that Ukraine says that they are no longer seeking NATO membership? Russia wants Ukrainian land, plain and simple.

31 posted on 06/28/2022 8:45:22 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: kiryandil

The Ukraine is attacking towards Kherson. If (big if, I know) they can drive the Russians back across the Dnieper, Odessa will not fall. If the lines remain approximately where they are now (NOT a big if) then Odessa will not fall.


32 posted on 06/28/2022 8:46:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Seruzawa
Funny how few of the FR Uke Gang have enlisted to go fight the evil Putin.


33 posted on 06/28/2022 8:46:34 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: BenLurkin
If the lines remain approximately where they are now (NOT a big if) then Odessa will not fall.

Yes, that's true.

34 posted on 06/28/2022 8:47:31 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Huskrrrr

LOL, more like floating balloons.


35 posted on 06/28/2022 8:47:52 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: McGruff
If we stayed out of Ukraine’s affairs in 2014 all this would have been avoided.

You have it backwards. It was Russia who was interfering with Ukrainian affairs when they first tried to block the EU-Ukrainian agreement and then took Crimea and Donbas when they could not get their way. All of this is on Russia.

36 posted on 06/28/2022 8:48:09 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Owen

Good analysis.


37 posted on 06/28/2022 8:48:50 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: JonPreston
"Das war pigs"
38 posted on 06/28/2022 8:49:41 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
Which also means that the 40 billion for weapons (SPIT) was nothing more than laundered money for politicians off shore bank accounts!! WHY when Rand Paul wanted accountability was EVERYONE SCREAMING we don’t have time for that!!!

Ukraine losing its eastern portion to Russia was going to happen, so before the corruption spigot was turned off for Biden and other western politicians that made bank off Ukraine for a decade, they decided to go for one last money grab via weapons sales.

Russian military spending in 2021- $66 billion

Ukraine military spending in 2022 - $50 billion+

39 posted on 06/28/2022 8:49:51 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: JonPreston

That’s someone who doesn’t care how many Ukrainians have to die in the process.


40 posted on 06/28/2022 8:59:12 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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