Posted on 06/20/2022 12:42:25 PM PDT by DFG
Texas Republicans want to hold a referendum next year to decide whether or not the state should secede from the U.S.
The party charges the state has taken its right to self-govern and calls for secession.
The demand was part of the party platform Republicans voted on at their state convention this weekend, where they also formally rejected President Joe Biden's election in 2020 as legitimate.
Under a section titled 'State Sovereignty,' the platform states: 'Pursuant to Article 1, Section 1, of the Texas Constitution, the federal government has impaired our right of local self-government. Therefore, federally mandated legislation that infringes upon the 10th Amendment rights of Texas should be ignored, opposed, refused, and nullified.
'Texas retains the right to secede from the United States, and the Texas Legislature should be called upon to pass a referendum consistent thereto.'
Texas has long pushed an independent movement, called 'Texit.'
After the area declared independence from Mexico in 1836, it was a sovereign state for nine years before it was annexed by the United States in 1845. There have been multiple secession movement since then.
Legally Texas cannot secede from the union. There has been a myth that it can because of the way it was annexed but the Congressional order of annexation merely stated Texas could - at a future date - divide itself into five states. It says nothing about leaving the union.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Good luck funding an Air Force and Army. And since you’re on the gulf a Navy as well.
Why should leaving be any harder than joining, requiring only the approval of a majority of the existing states as expressed through a vote in Congress?
I hope so, too. Whether states can legally secede or not, they can only be expected to put up with so much, especially when it’s imposed upon them by actions of left-leaning states.
Why is there an amendment needed for that?
Pretty sure unless the carpetbaggers post civil war did something I am not aware of, the constitution is still in the mindset of the framers, which was they may leave if they decide the gov is tyrantical
Make sure they move to the part that is north of I-70
An effort in futility, unless they exile the leftists and ban them from entry.
Dallas, Houston and Austin, possibly even San Antonio are inundated with them.
Otherwise, it is just kicking the can down the road under a new name. Leftists don’t give up.
“ Make sure they move to the part that is north of I-70”
Good plan. What a mess. Good problem though.
Show me in the Constitution where it states that a State cannot secede.
Not Comm Law rulings from a court, but actually in the Constitution, or even the USCode.
Show me in the Constitution where it states that a State cannot secede.
Not Common Law rulings from a court, but actually in the Constitution, or even the US Code.
Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, Missouri and Oklahoma link up to Texas nicely...
I get the impressions that the current administration would probably level a seceding state like Putin leveled Mariupol.
I don’t see that in the constitution. Certainly did not work in the civil war. But if the constitution were amended to let certain states secede, I don’t think anyone could dispute their right to do so.
Or for that matter, if the constitution were amended to kick out certain states, I don’t think anyone could dispute the validity of that. The constitution is the highest law in the land. Nothing overrides it.
As Dinesh D’Souza said, “We cannot go forward” as if nothing ever happened. Who gives an unrighteous rotten piece of crap if there is no provision in the US Constitution for secession?
If government turns tyrannical, there is no obligation by reason or conscience to continue to abide in a tyrannical state.
“Constitutionally, there can be no such thing as secession of a State from the Union.”
Oddly, the link you provided makes that very same claim, but then abandons it in the next sentence:
“The Constitution of the United States provides that it may be amended, and prescribes how this may be done, but it does not, as it exists now, contemplate its own destruction, nor a dissolution of the Government of which it is the living evidence. Constitutionally, there can be no such thing as secession of a State from the Union.”
The author’s argument fails on its face. He leaps from discussing how the Constitution can be amended to the non-sequitur of a state seceding. A state can secede without amending the Constitution one bit, and without destroying it, and without dissolving the government. If Texas were to secede, the United States as a constitutional republic would still exist, but just with one less state. So, the argument can be made that LEGALLY there is no prohibition to a state seceding.
Now, I would not want to see Texas secede, because I like Texas and because the US needs it; and more than Texas needs the US. Anyway, I like having 50 states.
Pretty sure unless the carpetbaggers post civil war did something I am not aware of, the constitution is still in the mindset of the framers, which was they may leave if they decide the gov is tyrantical
That’s not likely to pass unless there are a number of other states that want to secede with them.
Oklahoma will join them. And invite all of the SEC!
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That would be perfect!
Everything they need to make this work is in place now: food, fuel & football.
(You might add baseball today @ CWS)
The U.S. Constitution does not grant the federal government the right to prohibit a state from leaving the union.
And before the Constitution, there was the Declaration of Independence which, despite the disaster at Appomattox, still justifies secession in words too clear to deny.
The Law of Moses, written directly by the Man, authorizes divorce.
Abraham separated peacefully from Lot.
Of course, none of that means anything to the Empire. They would rather kill you than to put a nickel in the jukebox.
I was actually thinking about secession a few days ago LOL. Texas passport ready to go..
Yup this.
I’m not aware of any law or constitutional provision that a state cannot secede.
I was saying that there is no constitutional process to follow for a state to secede from the union. Meaning that the subject of secession is not addressed. I believe you are right that there is nothing said about secession in the constitution.
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