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Steny Hoyer: Arming Teachers, ‘Turning the Schools into Armed Fortresses’ Won’t Make Them Safer
Breitbart ^ | 06/09/2022 | Trent Baker

Posted on 06/09/2022 9:22:07 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

On Wednesday, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) pushed back against the notion that arming teachers would help prevent future mass school shootings.

“CNN Newsroom” host Jim Sciutto asked Hoyer about the value of the House passing symbolic gun legislation, knowing there would not be enough support in the Senate to get it passed into law.

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KEYWORDS: arming; banglist; education; hoyer; schools; teachers
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Well, making them gun free zones hasn’t worked out so well.


21 posted on 06/09/2022 9:39:19 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: proust
Hoyer: "Turning the Schools into Armed Fortresses’ Won’t Make Them Safer"

Steny, then make the Capitol Building a gun-free zone. Make it safer. You jackass!

22 posted on 06/09/2022 9:39:23 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Wonderful Troops.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

To Mr. Hoyer: Running your mouth won’t make you any smarter.


23 posted on 06/09/2022 9:39:43 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I miss Don Imus!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Armed Israeli Teachers…protecting some of the top students in the world…

Italian Trulli
24 posted on 06/09/2022 9:40:10 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Then I suppose turning DC into a fortified fortress wasn’t necessary after Jan 6 either, right?


25 posted on 06/09/2022 9:40:33 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Please, a LOCKED DOOR would have prevented what happened in Texas..... Don’t give me your crap.... A LOCKED DOOR....

What could have lessened it would have been a competent law enforcement response....

BUT A LOCKED DOOR WOULD HAVE PREVENTED IT!


26 posted on 06/09/2022 9:40:37 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Just wait for the police to save you. Shouldn’t take more than an hour and 17 minutes or so.


27 posted on 06/09/2022 9:40:38 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Remember the 2020 backstabbers. No more RINOs ever!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It works for courthouses and public buildings, like congress. They also say walls don’t work, like gated communities, prisons, fenced property, etc. Just saying it doesn’t make it true.


28 posted on 06/09/2022 9:44:14 AM PDT by Spok (Don’t pee down my leg and tell me it’s raining.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
It's time to disarm congressional law enforcement and security . Let's see how safe Steny Hoyar feels after that.
29 posted on 06/09/2022 9:45:31 AM PDT by Rdct29 (Democrats are the new Nazi's. They think they deserve total control over the people)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Israel Has Only Had 2 School Attacks in 44 Years, Here's How They Make Sure Their Kids Are Safe

"... [T]here have only been two successful attacks at Israeli schools since 1974, according to Dr. Ted Noel,... 'in both cases, the bad guys were killed by armed teachers.'"

"... Ministry of Education funds school security, which ranges from shelters and fences to armed and trained guards at every gate.

To take it a step further, Israel also prepares its students and teachers for the slight chance a gunman does get through security by teaching them to be proactive in times of terror by barricading a door or sensing the ripe opportunity to get away safely...."


The Solution to Preventing School Shootings Is Easy, and Many Are Not Going to Like It

"...If you want to stop school shootings from occurring, put guns in the school. Hire armed off-duty police or ex-military, and allow them to wander the halls of the school. Should a shooter be stupid enough to wander in and begin attempting to slaughter the innocent, then Darwin will have his day, and one less idiot set on doing evil will exist on this plane.

Or do what other schools have done, and begin training and arming teachers. Argyle ISD in Texas has begun arming its faculty, and there is a training school in Colorado that teaches the teachers how to use a gun and deal with school shooters with deadly force instead of just running and hiding.

Stepping back from the obvious heartbreak of the loss of the lives of children and young adults is difficult, but pure logic dictates that in order to stop an aggressor, you need an aggressor. A school defenseless is not a safe one. A gun-free zone isn’t at all safe if the only people respecting the rule have no intention to use a gun. I wish those who present no danger to anyone were safe from harm, but that’s not how the world works. You have to be as ready to deal death in defense as the killer is to do so in cold blood...." (emphasis added)

30 posted on 06/09/2022 9:45:38 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: ChicagoConservative27

for any reporter with balls.

“so why did you turn the capital in to one?”


31 posted on 06/09/2022 9:46:10 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The demonKKKrats are keeping things as they are, to facilitate more school/mall/office etc etc etc “soft target” shootings, so public opinion can be more easily manipulated for firearm confiscation.


32 posted on 06/09/2022 9:47:14 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Steny lives not far from us - his place is on the patuxent river - it’s called -
“Hoyer’s Point of View”.
We see him around now and then - mostly at the grocery store - 2 black SUV’s wait outside for him.
Sounds sort of hypocritical.


33 posted on 06/09/2022 9:47:42 AM PDT by Palio di Siena
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To: ChicagoConservative27

gun control and fortifying schools are not the answer.

The problem is, how to get these psychos, the killers, off the street?????

We must learn how to identify them and then find a way to remove them from society.


34 posted on 06/09/2022 9:51:48 AM PDT by elpadre (W)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
"Steny Hoyer: Arming Teachers, ‘Turning the Schools into Armed Fortresses’ Won’t Make Them Safer"

Cause only cops should have guns. And when the shooting starts, the on scene cops wait for braver cops.

35 posted on 06/09/2022 9:52:11 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: ChicagoConservative27

They want more kids dead to they can take guns from non-violent citizens and leave them in the hands of violent criminals.


36 posted on 06/09/2022 9:59:51 AM PDT by I want the USA back (To get the USA back - we have to recover from the current wave of insanity.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Steny Hoyer needs to understand the White House and Congress ARE Armed Fortresseser. They’re protected by a police force the size of Atlanta’s with less than 1 % of the land of Atlanta.

If Hoyer would like to drop that massive protection in exchange for gun control laws that won’t work and ARE ALREADY IN PLACE IN DC - then she’s nuts.

With all the money we waste on public education - with kids who can’t read their diplomas - the least we can do is give kids and teachers an itty bitty little protection compared to Congress.


37 posted on 06/09/2022 10:02:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (It's NOT 'gun violence' it's 'CRIMINAL VIOLENCE'- RAPE isn't penis violence - it's criminal violence)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

i called his office and gave em hell and the truth. viz.

My family has been here for 400 years on one side, longer on the other, apparently. We know all about schoolhouse and schoolmarm security for 400 years. My ancestors had schoolmarms with muskets fighting off Indian attacks for hundreds of years, Them schoolteachers wuz armed and perfect marksmen, taught to shoot when they was 6 yearn` old. My mother could hit a moving rat at 20 yards with a 22 when she wuz 10 years old.. My greatgrandfather had donated to the town a schoolhouse, a one room school house, on his own property protected by a schoolmarm with a musket and relatives with muskets from marauding Algonkins and Iroquois from Canada for scores of years. The first school teachers in Massachusetts, New Netherlands, and New York State wuz the FIRST “school security experts”; they wuz ready to shoot to kill. You just do not negotiate with people who want to scalp you while you are still breathing. No way. They`n were not stupoid. Them renegade Iroquois would even cook you and eat you for dinner [documentation avail]. Apparently school security experts have completely forgotten the original firstie school security systems in America. It was fearless schoolmarms big dogs, a musket and a deadeye aim. People to be quite ignorant of American Education Security and its beginnings. Please tell educators and Congressmen/women go back and study early American school security. They might actually learn something. Apparently USA educators do not even know their history of American education. Viz.
200 years ago, near Saratoga, NY, 2 schoolmarms armed with muskets held off a band of Algonquin Indians, British allies, until the militia arrived. You can check the Saratoga, NY area archives. It`s a famous battle. Apparently US teachers have total amnesia concerning how to protect children from predators 2 legged or 4 legged. Schools had armed teachers already here over 200 years ago- nuthin` new.
SCHOOLS ARE GUN ZONES in 1800

“Children of the present day would be somewhat startled to go to school attended by large dogs, to keep off the bears
and other wild animals, to study all day by the crackle of the great fire and back logs, to hear the howling of
wolves at rollcall, and see the teacher take from its resting place over the door, a trusty rifle to guard the way home. Such were the first schools in 1800.”
‘Periwinkle’, “The Sentinel”, Feb 21, 1874 [”Ticonderoga Sentinel”, Ticonderoga, NY].**USA


38 posted on 06/09/2022 10:03:21 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect..it was NYC.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Castles, fortresses, military bases, etc., have all been built to provide security for the people inside them. The people inside all of those have been armed in one way or another. People also put up fences, electrified gates, etc., and own guns to protect themselves, and what they own. If you don’t think that arming teachers would provide adequate protection for other teachers, and the students they spend a whole day with, then you’re a f-ing moron Steny Hoyer.


39 posted on 06/09/2022 10:08:06 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“Steny Hoyer: Arming Teachers, ‘Turning the Schools into Armed Fortresses’ Won’t Make Them Safer”

YES IT WILL (arming teachers that is). For the VERY RARE circumstance of a school attack.

It is the ONLY thing that has a chance of working.

When seconds count, the police are only MINUTES away. And then they “organize” for an hour (or MORE) before they do ANYTHING!

Meanwhile, the injured succumb to their injuries (slowly bleeding to death, scared to death, in some cases in excruciating pain while authorities “organize” and PREVENT others (like parents) who are willing to risk death to save their children.

An armed intruder is a surprise event. No time to wait for the coward police to do nothing.

THERE IS NO TIME! Your defense has to be faster and equally as lethal as the shooter.

BTW, A gun, locked in a teacher’s desk, and/or with a trigger lock, and ammunition locked up elsewhere shows the ridiculousness of “SAFE” gun procedures.

The gun must be holstered ON the teacher, READY for immediate use.

Armed security won’t work. ONE fat, old, retired “police officer” chatting up teachers in the teacher’s lounge, isn’t the answer.

AS MANY AS POSSIBLE teachers/faculty members MUST BE armed.

An armed teacher (OF COURSE WITH TRAINING) in EVERY classroom, would be my goal.

MORE GUNS, not less guns.


40 posted on 06/09/2022 10:08:25 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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