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Teacher wounded in Uvalde shooting says he will never forgive police
MSN ^ | June 7, 2022 | Brittany Shammas

Posted on 06/07/2022 5:36:30 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes

A teacher wounded in last month’s mass shooting at a Texas elementary school said he will never forgive law enforcement for waiting more than an hour to stop the gunman who killed 19 students and two teachers.

Arnulfo Reyes, hospitalized after being shot twice during the May 24 massacre at Robb Elementary School, spoke of his anger toward police during an emotional interview that aired Tuesday. He described feeling abandoned by officers who stood in a hallway even as students begged for help in repeated calls to 911.

“After everything, I get more angry, because you have a bulletproof vest. I had nothing! I had nothing,” a crying Reyes said in a segment broadcast on “Good Morning America.” “You’re supposed to protect and serve. There is no excuse for their actions.”

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In his interview with ABC, Reyes detailed the horror that unfolded in his classroom as he and his students hid under tables waiting for help. The fourth-grade English and language arts teacher said May 24 was “going to be a good day,” with students receiving awards during a ceremony at the school.

Some of the students went home after the ceremony. But 11 stayed at school, and Reyes put on a movie for them in Room 111. Suddenly, shots rang out.

“The kids started asking out loud, ‘Mr. Reyes, what is going on?’ ” he recalled. “And I said, ‘I don’t know what’s going on, but let’s go ahead and get under the table. Get under the table and act like you’re asleep.’ ”

He was gathering them under the table when he turned and saw the gunman.

(SNIP)

He fell to the floor and decided, “I’m going to act like I’m asleep also.” He said the Lord’s Prayer and the Hail Mary and “prayed and prayed...

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To: 1Old Pro

“...what about arming and training teachers who volunteer?”


I don’t have a problem with it, but I have no idea of how the school board feels on the subject. The past half-dozen years have shown a lot of changes. Outside doors are locked, Entrances to the two buildings require one to be buzzed in, a gate to the parking lot where one didn’t exist before and a full-time sheriff’s deputy acting a resource officer. All deliveries are now scheduled either before kids arrive or after they leave.

But, someone determined to wreak havoc can still easily do so.


41 posted on 06/08/2022 12:24:43 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Tired of Taxes

Yes I wondered why the teacher didn’t lock the door then open or break a window and start tossing kids out. That’s what I would have done.


42 posted on 06/08/2022 2:24:18 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: hanamizu

“Kid has to fill his water bottle, same thing.”

Really? A kid HAS to fill his WATER BOTTLE? We had drinking fountains when changing classes — and we LIKED it.


43 posted on 06/08/2022 2:55:00 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Joe Biden has been protected by assault weapons his entire adult life. )
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To: hanamizu

None of these measures was necessary before God was kicked out of American schools.


44 posted on 06/08/2022 2:58:12 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Joe Biden has been protected by assault weapons his entire adult life. )
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To: MayflowerMadam

Really? A kid HAS to fill his WATER BOTTLE? We had drinking fountains when changing classes — and we LIKED it.


I wish I were kidding. “Proper hydration” has become a thing. Expecting kids to get a drink between classes is so 20th century. Each kid either has a water bottle or a plastic bottle of water purchased from a teacher who basically sells them as a service. There is always some spillage and when the metal ones hit the floor, class is again interrupted.

And then there’s the eating. As a retired teacher who subs, I tell the kids no eating in class no matter what their regular teacher allows. The kids are shocked at the unreasonableness of my rule. Instead of paying attention to the lesson they are figuring how to sneak more food without my noticing. Nope, the kids expect to snack most of the day as well as sip from their water bottle. The lack of discipline expected of the kids is mind blowing.


45 posted on 06/08/2022 3:42:29 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu
I can’t really imagine a mob of 4th graders (are we talking 10 year olds) comprising much of a fighting force. Your strategy may work in a high school.
46 posted on 06/08/2022 3:57:44 PM PDT by MarDav
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To: hanamizu

Reminds me of some churches I’ve attended where people in the congregation sip their Starbucks during service. So disrespectful.


47 posted on 06/08/2022 4:16:21 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Joe Biden has been protected by assault weapons his entire adult life. )
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To: Tired of Taxes
Teacher wounded in Uvalde shooting says he will never forgive police

Can't say I blame him. The police screwed this whole situation up big time.

48 posted on 06/08/2022 4:26:11 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: marktwain
If he had been armed with a little bit of training, he could have stopped the shooter right there. He had plenty of time to do so.

Police were armed with a significant amount of training. They had plenty of time to do something. They didn't.

Don't blame him for not doing what the pros should have been doing.

49 posted on 06/08/2022 4:28:29 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: MarDav

I can’t really imagine a mob of 4th graders (are we talking 10 year olds) comprising much of a fighting force. Your strategy may work in a high school.


Most of my teaching was with junior high students, but I have subbed with 4th-graders. I agree, but once the guy is in the room with you, what choice does anyone have? As I understand it, at Uvalde, he shot every kid he found. One smeared blood on herself and played dead. The adult in the room, even if she is 120 pound young woman, has to lead the charge.

No one knows how he or she will respond in such a situation until, God forbid, he finds himself in it. I am making no judgements about the teachers involved. The L.E.O.s who waited over an hour, that’s another thing entirely.


50 posted on 06/08/2022 5:29:15 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: DoodleDawg
Police were armed with a significant amount of training. They had plenty of time to do something. They didn't.

Don't blame him for not doing what the pros should have been doing.

I am not blaming him.

I am stating the obvious.

He was an adult, in a position to stop the event very quickly, if he had a weapon and the small amount of training required for these events.

His training failed him, and his school administration failed him.

Police arrived too late to stop the early killing, which is when most casualties happen.

51 posted on 06/08/2022 5:39:18 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Fightin Whitey

He wasn’t even on school get grounds during the shooting.


52 posted on 06/08/2022 9:46:29 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The gunman was in his room before he knew what’s up.


53 posted on 06/08/2022 9:53:34 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Tired of Taxes
A teacher wounded in last month’s mass shooting at a Texas elementary school said he will never forgive law enforcement for waiting more than an hour to stop the gunman who killed 19 students and two teachers.

She's right. The police chief that told everyone to stand down was a Beto supporter - a democrat and a coward.

54 posted on 06/08/2022 10:00:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (It's NOT 'gun violence' it's 'CRIMINAL VIOLENCE'- RAPE isn't penis violence - it's criminal violence)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Or lock the door first before helping the children hide under the table.

Or was there no lockable door? The classrooms were connected...

Whatever the case, this teacher had a split-second decision to make.

He was shot right after helping the children hide.

Hindsight is always 20/20. I’ve never been in his position. I don’t really know how I would’ve reacted in that moment. Hope I never have to find out.

Another big question is the school’s alert system:

One of the teachers killed received an email that the killer was in the building. When she went to lock the door, the killer was already there.

I haven’t found an article on how teachers were supposed to be alerted. Were they alerted by email? If so, that’s not a good plan. I wish a reporter would find out.


55 posted on 06/09/2022 1:44:55 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: marktwain
He was an adult, in a position to stop the event very quickly, if he had a weapon and the small amount of training required for these events.

And you assume that unlike the well trained, well armed police he would immediately engage the shooter.

The idea that teaches would immediately go for their Glocks ignores instinct. The teachers first instinct would almost certainly be to protect their students. Time after time in shootings like this the teacher's body if found trying to shield her students. Putting their own flesh and blood between the shooter and the students. Not going for her purse to grab her pistol. That is human nature and that isn't going to change.

So go ahead and expect Lunch Lady Doris and School Nurse Betty to grab their guns and head for the sound of the AR-15 and call it a solution if you want. It won't be any different from any of the other proposals that will solve absolutely nothing that are floating around out there.

56 posted on 06/09/2022 4:37:11 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: hanamizu

Whenever we’ve had those active shooter drills in the school where I’ve been teaching, as per instruction I’ve a) locked the door, b) lined the students up along one wall and told them to remain silent, c) turned out the light (and we all try to project an image of an empty classroom. That’s it. Those were the procedures at our school. I had a 3 hole punch on a shelf nearby that wall that I would hold like a baseball bat, too.

After the drill, I would remain in my position and explain to the class that, should a shooter succeed in entering the room, I would do everything in my power to subdue him with the hole puncher. This would get a big laugh out of the kids. I would then say with the stone-coldest face I could muster, “Who will be the one to pick up the hole puncher and be the next to try and subdue the intruder? In such a scenario, do not think he will stop at taking me out; we all may be his victims on that day if we do not choose to stand and fight.” The entire class would go silent. No more laughing. I’d remind them of the school’s mandated procedures for active shooter situations (shut out the lights and pretend we’re not home) and that they should discuss this with their parents to see if they would like to do something about initiating a change to this policy.

The past few years I have given thought to conceal carrying (let a jury decide my fate not a shooter), but I never have.

BTW, my last day as a teacher is tomorrow—-not because of school shootings, though.


57 posted on 06/09/2022 4:47:58 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: DoodleDawg

You should do a little research on Florida’s Guardian program that became law after the Parkland shooting. Yes, lunch ladies can and will protect school kids with their Glock. This law became reality in 2018 and there have been no school shootings where it has been put in use. None.


58 posted on 06/09/2022 5:34:11 AM PDT by DocRock
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To: DoodleDawg

In Israel, the teacher carries the gun in a holster. They don’t go for their pocketbook. A well trained person with a firearm would most likely use it because that is what you would be trained to do. Not sit on the floor and do nothing.


59 posted on 06/09/2022 5:43:36 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: DocRock
Yes, lunch ladies can and will protect school kids with their Glock

Doing things that police won't do. Maybe we should replace the police with teachers.

60 posted on 06/09/2022 5:44:06 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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