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Mass shootings are difficult to prevent with mental health resources alone, experts say
NBC News / Comcast ^ | May 28, 2022 | By Melissa Chan and Elizabeth Chuck

Posted on 05/29/2022 9:26:40 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

In the wake of yet another mass shooting, some Texas politicians have called for increased mental health services to help prevent the next tragedy.

But experts working in the field warn that there is no fully effective solution to stop these shootings before they happen, with some saying that blaming mental health is a deflection from the fact that gun control is a necessary part of prevention.

"We can do all the things we can to help students, but at the end of the day, if a student has the notion to go shoot up a school and has access to the weapons to do that, I'm not sure any measures that may or may not have taken place would necessarily prevent it," said Jill Cook, the executive director of the American School Counselor Association.

"If somebody comes to a door with a semiautomatic weapon," Cook said, "that's it then."

Although Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said Wednesday that a "mental health challenge" had played a role in the massacre, the gunman had no known criminal history or mental health issues.

Less than 10 percent of shootings nationwide involve a suspect who has a mental illness, according to the National Alliance on Mental Illness.

Experts said mental health providers can only do so much, as gun violence and firearm purchases surge nationwide.

"Mental health is not going to take us all the way there," Cohen said. "The mental health community cannot solve the problem of gun violence in America."

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1 posted on 05/29/2022 9:26:40 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Experts say”

Fact check: experts don’t exist other than the one’s working in MBC’s
News Room.


2 posted on 05/29/2022 9:29:19 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But the Left is eager to create many more crazy people with their Woke crappola.


3 posted on 05/29/2022 9:29:41 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They are impossible to prevent unless you want to preemptively lock down everyone in a little cell.

People can be totally evil and unpredictable. Shall we incarcerate everyone we think might commit a crime?

Best we can do is reduce and minimize. Make schools secure like an airport. Armed security that actually does their job. Social policy that discourages fatherless households. Open carry, in the secured schools too. Involuntary commitment for people who are out of touch with reality. Punishment for actual threats of violence.


4 posted on 05/29/2022 9:30:21 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

As tragic as these events are, far more are killed by youth gangs in our inner cities than die in mass shootings in a school. Yet the former is never discussed.


5 posted on 05/29/2022 9:30:35 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I see three basic approaches:

1) Help PEOPLE get the mental health care they need.
2) Help PEOPLE make safer schools and protect themselves inside the schools.
3) Help GOVERNMENT take away our God-given rights by confiscating our guns.

2 of these ideas seem sensible to me.
1 of these ideas is the only thing the media and the politicians want to consider.


6 posted on 05/29/2022 9:31:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's hard to "Believe all women" when judges say "I don't know what a woman is".)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It is impossible to “prevent” these shootings. The solution lies in how to deal with them when they happen.


7 posted on 05/29/2022 9:33:12 AM PDT by pjd
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The “mental health community” has caused enormous damage in the past 50 years.


8 posted on 05/29/2022 9:35:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Love's redeeming work is done)
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To: ClearCase_guy
2 of these ideas seem sensible to me.

How do you accomplish 1 and 2?

9 posted on 05/29/2022 9:36:26 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Less than 10 percent of shootings nationwide involve a suspect who has a mental illness, according to the National Alliance on Mental Illness. f the national alliance of misfits who call themselves experts.

this is straight up Bull sh!#. My b.s. alarm went off so loud it hurt my head!! there is a mental illness(es)involved in anyone who murders another.

not everyone who is unbalanced is a murderer, but every murderer is unbalanced.

Bring me a person who shot at another that wasnt unbalanced unless it was clearly self defense.

10 posted on 05/29/2022 9:41:20 AM PDT by Ikeon (Romans 6:23)
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..... Like a Job or Loan Application .... For minors .... Require Character Refferences as well as the signature of a parent or legal guardian for purchasers or transfer to persons 19 years of age and under. We really need to realize that For the most part the mental maturity of the 19 year olds of today are pretty much equal to the mental maturity of 12 or 13 year olds of previous generations decades ago.

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11 posted on 05/29/2022 9:47:02 AM PDT by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Mental health services, and prison systems are the first agencies that Democrats historically defund. They choose to close psych centers and prisons, and toss residents, and inmates back onto the streets. And these days, Democrats aren’t interested in locking people up for their crimes. By releasing perps, even violent ones, within hours of their arrests, they keep the jail and prison populations down, and they then claim that crime has actually gone down.


12 posted on 05/29/2022 9:48:03 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If someone, a student, anyone, wants t kill people and doesn’t have ‘access’ to a gun they will use anything they can, They will use a car, a knife, make a bomb, etc., there are many ways to commit a mass killing and history proves you don’t need a gun to do it. The left has an agenda and that is to remove guns from everyone but law enforcement, politicians, the wealthy, celebrities, and of course criminals so naturally they say there is nothing that will be effective without taking guns from the unwashed proletariat so they can’t defend themselves.


13 posted on 05/29/2022 9:53:32 AM PDT by Mastador1
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Less than 10 percent of shootings nationwide involve a suspect who has a mental illness, according to the National Alliance on Mental Illness.”

If this sentence where laying in my cats litter box he’d still be in there trying to cover it.


14 posted on 05/29/2022 9:54:16 AM PDT by moehoward (.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who said it was easy


15 posted on 05/29/2022 9:54:25 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just shows that Democrats aren’t serious about solving the problem.

They are serious about Conservatives not having the means to defend themselves.


16 posted on 05/29/2022 9:54:51 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Agreed, because then things like intergenerational welfare dependency, drug addiction, illiteracy and lack of basic job skills, and other related things affecting predominately black and Democrat run areas would likely have to be discussed.


17 posted on 05/29/2022 9:56:09 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966 )
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To: Mastador1

The largest mass killing of schoolchildren in the US was in the 1920s or 1930s, a firearm wasn’t even involved the murderer blew up a small schoolhouse ( I think a 1 room schoolhouse!). Motivation i think was revenge.


18 posted on 05/29/2022 9:58:12 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I don’t think it’s so much a mental health problem as a social one. If school shootings were “unknown” then they wouldn’t suddenly become known because someone was having a mental health crisis. The problem is that our society craves notoriety and attention. Famous people, some of them famous just because they’re...well, famous...Paris Hilton comes to mind, have massive social media followings. People with weak egos crave the attention they’d get if something they do goes viral. If they have no talent, then the only thing they can do is something disgusting. The more disturbing, the better. That’s the crux of the problem. The first step in bringing this under control is to take that fame and notoriety away from them. No names of any shooters ever. I don’t see that happening in our present society.


19 posted on 05/29/2022 9:59:08 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Most of these shooters are on some type of psychotropic drugs. Or are drug abusers. Why not drug tests before you can buy weapons.


20 posted on 05/29/2022 10:01:23 AM PDT by bboise
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