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Virginia board is set to return names of the Confederate generals Stonewall Jackson, Turner Ashby and Robert E Lee to two schools after they were changed during George Floyd protests
Daily Mail ^ | 5/19/2022 | James Gordon

Posted on 05/22/2022 6:33:34 AM PDT by Bon of Babble

Two Virginia schools which had been named after Confederate generals and soldiers and which changed their names in the wake of the 2020 murder of George Floyd, are to revert back to their earlier names.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: ashby; floyd; jackson; lee; nikkisfault; stonewall
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To: DoodleDawg
By accepting that they were men of their times and views towards slavery were not the same then as they are now.

Exactly. It might also help if some few of OUR citizenry were willing to STAND UP to protect against the desecrations of present-day liars, weaklings, haters and fools.

41 posted on 05/22/2022 7:58:50 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Guenevere

I think…and hope…this will be happening in a lot of places.

I work in a historic cemetery in the South where we have VA markers for soldiers who served in the Confederate Army, which were approved by Presidents Truman and Eisenhower in 1951-52 as a sign of national reconciliation.

History is history. I think Andrew Jackson was horrible on many levels…pro-slavery, a cruel slave owner himself, anti-Indian, ani-Catholic, expansionist not matter whose legal property it was. He was terrible in his attacks on Spanish Florida, but he was successful and ended up being the first US Governor of Florida.

Not likeable…but nobody can deny that he had a major effect on the formation of the territory that is now the US, so whether you like him or not, you can’t erase him and just need to know and acknowledge the history, good and bad.

That said, his main defect is that he was the founder of the Democratic Party. So maybe let’s rethink this…LOL!


42 posted on 05/22/2022 8:58:21 AM PDT by livius
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To: DoodleDawg
Jackson owned slaves for most of his adult life

Born poor. Taught school. Military academy. Military experience. Not much slaveholding there.

He died before he was 40 and his last two years he was in the military.

So, we're talking about less than 10 years, maybe less than 5.

Too busy to check my library on this but Simon Legree he was not.

43 posted on 05/22/2022 9:05:02 AM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Guenevere

“Nikki” haley will be deeply saddened.


44 posted on 05/22/2022 9:18:45 AM PDT by imabadboy99
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Excellent news. Finally, common sense returns. Hopefully, it will happen in other states as well.


45 posted on 05/22/2022 9:20:29 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: reg45
Jackson violated state law when he educated his slaves.

Jackson ran a Sunday school for slaves. Educating them outside a rudimentary understanding of the scripture was not part of the curriculum. And while this was theoretically illegal, such Sunday schools were not uncommon in the south and Jackson's school was exceptional. When challenged with the law Jackson made it clear he would not close the school and nothing came of it.

46 posted on 05/22/2022 9:30:52 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Buttons12
Military academy. Military experience. Not much slaveholding there.

University instructor. He led a middle-class existence and slavery was a middle-class institution. He owned one or two slaves prior to his second marriage, acquired some when he wed, and bought and sold more while married. Records show he owned as many as 10 at one time.

Too busy to check my library on this but Simon Legree he was not.

No, he wasn't. There is no reason to believe he was an abusive owner or misused his property. He was an average, Southern slaveowner. Again, so what?

47 posted on 05/22/2022 9:38:31 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Guenevere

Statues next please.


48 posted on 05/22/2022 9:46:47 AM PDT by Rappini
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To: The Louiswu

They changed the name of my high school (also the one my mother attended during WWI) from the innocuous “Central High” to “Cardozo Senior High School” many years ago. It irked a little, but “wotthehell, wotthehell, archie!”


49 posted on 05/22/2022 10:05:27 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Socon-Econ

Because they didn’t “lead the charge for slavery”. Leftist PC Revisionists who want to rewrite Southern history need to get over it.


50 posted on 05/22/2022 10:15:48 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Guenevere; Pelham; Travis McGee

I’m very happy

South bashers here

Pound sand


51 posted on 05/22/2022 10:22:08 AM PDT by wardaddy (Have you ever seen more crazy assed women than on parade nowadays.....it's astounding ...and ugly.”)
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To: Guenevere

exactly. No more PC woke nonsense, and return to normalcy. The ghetto animals already got their millions from the liberal white guilters.

This is what happens when a state has GOP had a landslide in the top 3 levels of govt.


52 posted on 05/22/2022 10:22:11 AM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2018 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: wardaddy

Yup. I’m not a Southerner but understand why they wanted to secede in the first place. To be left alone. Bring back the description of the “Civil War” to the original “War of Northern Aggression”.


53 posted on 05/22/2022 10:24:14 AM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2018 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: FLT-bird

Because they didn’t “lead the charge for slavery”. Leftist PC Revisionists who want to rewrite Southern history need to get over it.
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If you were the slave, would it matter it matter to you who lead the charge? If you were the Jew in Auschwitz, would you want to see a statue to a German WWII general just because he did not invent the Nazi party?


54 posted on 05/22/2022 10:33:03 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: max americana
Bring back the description of the “Civil War” to the original “War of Northern Aggression”.

LOL!

55 posted on 05/22/2022 10:35:55 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Guenevere

Now if sports teams would revert back to their original names............., Washington REDSKINS, Cleveland INDIANS!


56 posted on 05/22/2022 10:38:25 AM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: livius

... History is history. I think Andrew Jackson was horrible on many levels…pro-slavery, a cruel slave owner himself, anti-Indian, ani-Catholic, expansionist not matter whose legal property it was. He was terrible in his attacks on Spanish Florida, but he was successful and ended up being the first US Governor of Florida.
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Good point. The issue here isn’t men like Andrew Jackson or George Washington, whose legitimate claims to fame do not involve fighting in a war to keep slavery. Their great accomplishments outside of slavery cannot be cancelled just because they owned slaves.


57 posted on 05/22/2022 10:44:44 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Socon-Econ
If you were the slave, would it matter it matter to you who lead the charge? If you were the Jew in Auschwitz, would you want to see a statue to a German WWII general just because he did not invent the Nazi party?

Do we also have to condemn Benjamin Franklin? He was perfectly happy to run ads from slaveowners for slave auctions and seeking to recapture escaped slaves in his newspapers.

How about George Washington? He owned literally hundreds of slaves.

Ditto Thomas Jefferson.

Ditto James Madison.

Ditto Patrick Henry

Ditto George Mason

Ditto John Hancock

Ditto Alexander Hamilton

Should we not honor any of those listed above? They were all slave owners.

58 posted on 05/22/2022 10:52:20 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Socon-Econ
Good point. The issue here isn’t men like Andrew Jackson or George Washington, whose legitimate claims to fame do not involve fighting in a war to keep slavery. Their great accomplishments outside of slavery cannot be cancelled just because they owned slaves.

the war wasn't about keeping slavery. Slavery was not threatened within the US.

59 posted on 05/22/2022 10:53:37 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Socon-Econ
Good point. The issue here isn’t men like Andrew Jackson or George Washington, whose legitimate claims to fame do not involve fighting in a war to keep slavery. Their great accomplishments outside of slavery cannot be cancelled just because they owned slaves.

The war wasn't about keeping slavery. Slavery was not threatened within the US.

60 posted on 05/22/2022 10:55:20 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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