Posted on 05/16/2022 1:23:17 PM PDT by elpadre
Ha! Nice catch on Ganeenead’s prior “predictions”.
Extending this war will only encourage more nuclear escalation which will either go live or force a resolution.
Meanwhile, every other significant state without them is accelerating plans for development. Not just the Iranians are watching.
Biteme’s handlers are beyond foolish.
Ukrainians are pawns in the battle between the shady globalists who control the Biden admin and any sovereign state.
Russia just happens to be sovereign state that’s currently in the globalist crosshairs.
Unless, of course, you believe everything you hear from NYT, PBS, ABC, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, the Democrats, etc., etc., etc.
Gee. They will call this guy Putins puppet in 3…2…1…
Negotiations should have been first!
I’m astonished by the article and the responses. There’s so much wrong here. Putin started this because he has a mistaken idea about Ukraine, whether it’s a nation or not, the strength of his military, and the situation on the ground before the conflict. Putin has been proven wrong on every point. Having dealt with company presidents who have brought their company to the brink of bankruptcy by similar misunderstandings, I’m not confident a man who is this wrong can adjust to reality. If Putin can’t accept the facts, then the war can’t end unless either Russia can’t continue it, or someone kills Putin.
As for whether we should be involved...Russia’s goals are to reestablish the old Soviet Union. Putin’s made this pretty clear. The geographic features that do this are on the other side of Ukraine. Also, halfway through Poland. It’s better to fight this fight here than in a NATO country. Don’t say that Putin wouldn’t attack NATO. Anyone this disassociated with reality can’t be depended on to act logically. Not by the logic the rest of us use.
As for locking Ukraine out of NATO, they were trying desperately to not have this fight and that was their reason for joining NATO. Are we saying, “no, you need to be a vassal state to an autocratic dictator who will control who runs your government?” Really? Because people who are free tend to do much better than people who are like those subjugated into some Borg-like amalgamation of evil. The reason Russia is so poor now is the oligarchs have drained it like vampires and moved the money out of Russia because Russia isn’t safe even for them.
As to why we care...because Russia (and China) are horribly threatened...not by America’s power, but by the fact America exists. That’s a scary thought. If Russia loses we might do a Marshal Plan and bring them into a more globalized and non-threatening world. But unless America plans on being the world’s cop, God I hope not, then we need a world of stable democracies.
Moscow/Putin has only themselves to blame for this. If they'd stopped at the borders of the disputed eastern territories, negotiations might have happened. But once they went beyond that - coupled with public threats against actual members of NATO and the assertion of a right to all of Ukraine - they took that off the table.
Having previously stolen Crimea doesn't help matters.
What I think is personally going on is that a subgroup of Trump supporters have somehow bought into the idea that Putin is really just the Russian variant of Trump, an ally against the ubiquitous "Deep State", and therefore are rooting for Putin to win this war. It's "Q" on steroids. And I personally find that kind of support for Russia/Putin to be absolute despicable.
I don't have the same opinion of someone like Rand Paul, who pretty much opposes all foreign aid and military support on principle. But I believe he is in the minority.
Chinese propaganda.
What is a waf?
You guys have been saying that for weeks. There won’t be any mass surrenders. The Ukrainians know what the Russians will do to them, plus they’re fighting for their homes. They aren’t going to roll over.
The most likely thing is escalation, and the most likely escalation is interdiction of arms shipments with conventional weapons on the territory of Ukraine.
IOW, with regards to globohomo and the Blue American Empire, raise but don’t call.
Yep. Our Uniparty wants to build the biggest army in Europe and is salivating at all the opportunities for graft and kickbacks that all these juicy government contracts will provide.
A negotiated settlement would mean appeasing Pootie-Poot to a some extent, and no good can come from that.
“...appeasing Pootie-Poot to a some extent...”
according to the British and French intelligence services Putin has cancer and scheduled for surgery. He may finally realize he is mortal and the end is near. If that information is true, Putin could well take a different role and accept a just peace (whatever a just peace is) and try to repair the monster legacy he has earned.
I know - wishful thinking, but hope springs eternal!
The Ukrainians have been able to “hold out”? They are kicking the Russians asses.
And as for the US not supporting a negotiated settlement, we just had a top Russian official declare and reject, the United States’ suggested settlement which would allow Russia to keep Ukrainian territory.
“..we just had a top Russian official declare and reject, the United States’ suggested settlement which would allow Russia to keep Ukrainian territory....”
I wasn’t aware there had been any activity of that nature. Was that when Austin talked with his Russian counterpart?
And you’re just chock-full of Cold War mentality and you would never ever say a good word about rights or ever even consider that they might be right in this
Who do you mean by "they"?
Russia interdicting shipments on Ukrainian territory isn't an escalation. It's been part of the war all along.
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