Posted on 04/27/2022 8:05:58 AM PDT by Mariner
Sen. Rand Paul got flak Tuesday for his comments on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, with some people criticizing him for echoing one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's talking points.
During an exchange with Secretary of State Antony Blinken, Paul pointed out that Russia's attacks, in the recent past, have been on countries that were once part of the Soviet Union.
Putin has publicly dismissed Ukraine's right to function as a sovereign nation separate from Russia.
The Kentucky Republican's comments came during a Senate hearing with Blinken, during which Paul raised concerns about U.S. displays of support for Ukraine potentially joining the NATO military alliance, including during former President George W. Bush and President Joe Biden's administrations.
He asked Blinken: "Knowing full well that Ukraine was unlikely to ever join NATO since it had already been 14 years since they said they were going to become members, why was it so important last fall — before this invasion — to continue agitating for Ukraine's admission to NATO?"
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Who's side will you be on?
Paul 2024.
There needs to be a new rule modeled on Godwin’s Law - the first person to accuse the other of repeating ‘Putin Talking Points’ loses.
It was nice while it lasted and kept the peace through the Cold War. But it became irrelevant and then a danger to stability and nobody but Rand and a few others will admit that now.
Whose
The smartest thing the deep-state/CIA did was subsume and coopt the Left into their power structure, especially corporate media and big tech.
They now have the old hippies and young wokesters cheering for non-stop war and empire-building abroad. America’s left cheer for social restrictions of all kinds, and limits on free-speech. As long as they get their Government checks and no one dares question their sexual ethics, its all good
Obama, or whoever controlled him, was the most destructive, war-mongering President there was, right on the heels of Bush - and yet he ran as the “Hope and Change” candidate and is still revered by American socialists.
Consistently, historically and currently Paul comes down on the correct side of the issues.
Paul for Senate Majority Leader 2022
“The smartest thing the deep-state/CIA did was subsume and coopt the Left into their power structure, especially corporate media and big tech.”
The neocons were/are children of the left.
I argue they coopted the right.
If someone makes a true statement without the distortions and lies, it is not propaganda nor does it shadow propaganda.
And they did it through emotional appeal and manipulation.
“Paul pointed out that Russia’s attacks, in the recent past, have been on countries that were once part of the Soviet Union”
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This is an important observation. Just as the US exercises de facto “call the shots” rule over countries we never had actual rule over in this hemisphere since Monroe’s time, the Ukraine - Russia’s neighbor - was under direct (not de facto) Kremlin rule for 70 years.
Rand is not as big an idiot as his father, just an idiot.
“was under direct (not de facto) Kremlin rule for 70 years”
Actually, since the time of Peter the Great...except for a few interruptions when they were under the control of Poland or Lithuania.
This fact is one the neocons do not want to become common knowledge within the American people. And very few Americans could even find Ukraine on a map, much less have any knowledge of its history.
It nearly extinguishes their zeal to hate Russia for invading Ukraine. And their zeal for war.
Hey yahoo news, remember when Obama told putin he could work with him like,good buddies after he got reelected? Didn’t see you al. Condemning Obama when he said that
That is the key point that most are overlooking. America has never tolerated foreign powers establishing a military presence on our borders. Try to imagine what a patriotic American President would do if a radical Mexican government tried to join the Warsaw Pact in 1978 with Russian nuclear guarantees. Nuclear war was nearly precipitated by the Russian presence in Cuba.
However it works both ways. Have no liking for Iran but for a moment picture yourself an Iranian nationalist. How would you feel that the US has turned the Persian Gulf into an American lake? The US, a foreign country, has enough firepower at your doorstep to effectively destroy your nation and at the least affect your policies? Or picture any Russian nationalist leader. You have not only witnessed the dissolution of the Russian empire but now a hostile military alliance is fortifying the lands on your borders that you once controlled.
Rand Paul could have been more politic in his comments. However Americans must come to understand that, despite neocon propaganda, American interventions in distant lands do provoke an often unfriendly response. We experienced that on 9/11, in Vietnam,Iraq and Afghanistan as well.
Did you create that? If so, good job.
“despite anti American commie propaganda
9/11...Muzzies hate everybody but we have always been the great satan to them...even after helping muzzies.
Vietnam...commies invaded the South
Iraq 1 justified...Iraq 2 mistake
Afghan...sorry, but they invited in AQ and allowed them to base and plan attack on us.
Mark Levin and the ghost of Mccain demand war with Russia, so you’ll just have to stand down Rand. /s
Oh, yeah - while the US gets grief from places that take handouts from US, America has also earned a reasonable amount of animosity from some places. If nothing else, just the CIA has done a lot of dirty work on foreign soil.
But I believe, keeping in mind the context spoken of here, the Ukraine thing is definitely in Russia’s “sphere” as much as we exercised in, say, Nicaragua or Granada. More, probably, given location and the inter-history, in my thinking.
And, the argument is a silly one. Those in Donbass, who have been subjected to war and persecuted by neo-Nazis we train after fomenting a revolution in 2014, have the right to self-determination.
This war wouldn't be happening if we hadn't teased NATO membership for Ukraine and if Ukraine had agreed to implement the Minsk Agreement it signed off on in 2015. We could have easily forced them to do all that.
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