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That is the key point that most are overlooking. America has never tolerated foreign powers establishing a military presence on our borders. Try to imagine what a patriotic American President would do if a radical Mexican government tried to join the Warsaw Pact in 1978 with Russian nuclear guarantees. Nuclear war was nearly precipitated by the Russian presence in Cuba.

However it works both ways. Have no liking for Iran but for a moment picture yourself an Iranian nationalist. How would you feel that the US has turned the Persian Gulf into an American lake? The US, a foreign country, has enough firepower at your doorstep to effectively destroy your nation and at the least affect your policies? Or picture any Russian nationalist leader. You have not only witnessed the dissolution of the Russian empire but now a hostile military alliance is fortifying the lands on your borders that you once controlled.

Rand Paul could have been more politic in his comments. However Americans must come to understand that, despite neocon propaganda, American interventions in distant lands do provoke an often unfriendly response. We experienced that on 9/11, in Vietnam,Iraq and Afghanistan as well.

“despite anti American commie propaganda

9/11...Muzzies hate everybody but we have always been the great satan to them...even after helping muzzies.

Vietnam...commies invaded the South

Iraq 1 justified...Iraq 2 mistake

Afghan...sorry, but they invited in AQ and allowed them to base and plan attack on us.

Oh, yeah - while the US gets grief from places that take handouts from US, America has also earned a reasonable amount of animosity from some places. If nothing else, just the CIA has done a lot of dirty work on foreign soil.

But I believe, keeping in mind the context spoken of here, the Ukraine thing is definitely in Russia’s “sphere” as much as we exercised in, say, Nicaragua or Granada. More, probably, given location and the inter-history, in my thinking.