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First Priority -- Avoid US War With Russia
Townhall.com ^ | April 22, 2022 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 04/22/2022 7:31:12 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Gnome1949
Do you want them to make Americans bleed in response?

How many Americans did they make bleed in Korea and Vietnam?

Putin's Great Russian fascism needs to be defeated, so make as many Russians bleed as possible.

21 posted on 04/22/2022 8:11:51 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: glorgau

What near peer adversary are you talking about? Certainly not the Russian army.


22 posted on 04/22/2022 8:12:38 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Kaslin

This has already turned into the next big proxy war against The Evil Putin. We’re sending our latest cutting edge weapons, billions in hardware, armored vehicles, lawyers, guns, and money. The faucets for War, Inc. are wide open.

I sure as hell didn’t vote for this!!!! Wtf is going on with our country?!? Apparently, the State Department and CIA are running our foreign policy, and nothing has changed.

In spite of losing Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Kosovo...they have only one play in their play book, the one that makes everyone else rich while we go broke.

And congressman get to put on flak jackets and spiral in, do photo ops, hand out bags of cash, and push little tanks around their map tables. While making war noises: “Pew pew pew!!! Ratatatat! Booom! Take that, Putin!!!”


23 posted on 04/22/2022 8:13:07 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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To: pierrem15

Wow. By your own example of Korea and Vietnam, you want 100,000 Americans to die in Ukraine just to make the Russians “bleed”?

>>>Insult vulgar insult here.


24 posted on 04/22/2022 8:18:24 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Does anyone think that the US sending military aid and equipment to Ukraine is not a blatant act of aggression against Russia?

It clearly is.

But the US Navy pursuing German U-Boats in the summer of 1941 were also blatant acts of aggression against Germany. In that case, however, Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor allowed us to enter the war as an aggrieved party.

How would something similar play out here? (We're thousands of miles away from our shores and a short distance from Russia; we couldn't spin this our way even if we wanted to.)

25 posted on 04/22/2022 8:18:34 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("If you think tough men are dangerous, wait until you see what weak men are capable of."- J Peterson)
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To: Gnome1949; DIRTYSECRET

I took it to mean “make them bleed financially”

Russia can only keep this offensive for so long before it becomes a budget buster...

Still, if Ukraine and drawing a line on national sovereignty are important then, Europe ought to be the ones fronting this thing...


26 posted on 04/22/2022 8:21:47 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Well, it won’t be him bleeding, will it?


27 posted on 04/22/2022 8:26:39 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Responsibility2nd

No, you’ve reversed the analogy: I would prefer 100,000 Russians die and bleed in Ukraine because we arm the Ukrainians.


28 posted on 04/22/2022 8:26:46 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Kaslin

Chris Coons is just another neocon chicken hawk when it comes to war with Russia.

Beats the drums and talks big, but has no intention of actually WINNING or any believable strategy for prosecuting the combat.


29 posted on 04/22/2022 8:28:02 AM PDT by alloysteel (There are folks running the government who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches - Will Rogers)
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To: Kaslin

Doesn’t Europe has some say about going to war with Russia?? They are the ones living next door. They are ones who will suffer the most. Why doesn’t the US turn leadership over to the EU (or NATO) and standby in a supporting role??


30 posted on 04/22/2022 8:33:48 AM PDT by elpadre (W)
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To: pierrem15

That’s not how it works. Whenever the US sends troops to do battle - justified or not - we end up losing.

And of course before we commit to losing a useless war, we first always send military aid and equipment.

It’s one thing to lose to Afghan terrorists; it’ll be quite another to lose to Russia.


31 posted on 04/22/2022 8:35:30 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Does anyone think that the US sending military aid and equipment to Ukraine is not a blatant act of aggression against Russia?

It's "funny" though, how this is perceived. In all of the wars with U.S. involvement, going back to Korea, we've had to fight against weapons supplied by Russia (or USSR) and/or China.

32 posted on 04/22/2022 8:36:28 AM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“...and will not be a cause of escalation.”

It already is. Look at the price of petroleum products thus everything you need to stay alive. And we could have afforded it if Biden would have removed the anal/cranial insertion he had and continues to display.

Before this started, Russia had the 11th most powerful economy in the world. They controlled a large percentage of petroleum products needs along with steel and wheat transfers to many countries.

We’re in a war right now with no armor thanks to liberal policies and “big talk with nothing behind it” actions. Whether it’s guns or pork bellies, it can kill just as well with the terrorism aspect of it. Fear is a powerful tool.

wy69


33 posted on 04/22/2022 8:38:45 AM PDT by whitney69
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War with Russia will empower the authoritarians in DC like the Covid cultists can only dream of.


34 posted on 04/22/2022 8:43:28 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Correct. Plus it will take the Biden/democrat failures off the front page and a hot war in Ukraine will help the democrats come next November.

Plus, there is still every chance the Rats will bring Covid back if they think that will keep them from losing the midterms.

And if a war with Russia and a resurgence of Covid doesn’t work, then the rumors of a food shortage will be kickstarted.

Democrats are evil. They will stop at nothing to retain power and destroy America.


35 posted on 04/22/2022 8:57:39 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: pierrem15

Yep.

Whats good for the goose....

Paybacks are a bitch


36 posted on 04/22/2022 8:58:01 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: Responsibility2nd

Nah...lot of evil to go around.


37 posted on 04/22/2022 8:58:52 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: Responsibility2nd

As a happy side benefit they’d destroy a few tens of thousands of americas best to be replaced with trash pouring across our border, while the rest of us at home are further taxed into destitution. But don’t complain - wouldn’t want to be considered a Putin Puppet.

For what. No thank you.


38 posted on 04/22/2022 9:01:42 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Responsibility2nd
In 1956, President Dwight Eisenhower refused to use U.S. forces to intervene to halt Russian tanks from crushing the Hungarian Revolution that had risen up against Soviet occupation and rule.

Ike was unwilling to cross the Yalta line dividing Europe and chose to let the Hungarian Revolution fail rather than potentially ignite a war in which our own soldiers and nation would be at risk.

Ike literally put America first, ahead of the Hungarians.

Eisenhower wan an intelligent man who loved his country. Biden is a fool who would sell us out in a New York Minute...

39 posted on 04/22/2022 9:03:07 AM PDT by GOPJ (.....Being a sexual weirdo should NOT be a path to power.)
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To: Gnome1949

“ Over a poor country known to be one of the most corrupt nations on Earth?”

Yes, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt nations on Earth. As, most likely, is Russia.

But the MOST corrupt nation on Earth is the United States…and it isn’t even close. Ukraine is merely one of the prostitutes that the American political class is using to keep their good times rolling at the expense of their own peasants (formerly known as citizens).


40 posted on 04/22/2022 9:21:49 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Defund Politicians )
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