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Trump seems to get it wrt Ukraine
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Posted on 04/19/2022 3:12:35 PM PDT by ganeemead


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To: Prince of Space
Then DC, the EU, and NATO heard about the agreement and made Ukraine walk it all back.

Because the most prolific producer of munitions with high explosives in the world a couple of times over was running out of ammo and having supply problems and would be hors de combat by the end of whichever week it was.

And then the global corruptocrats would have been able to push the imperialist goal post a couple of hundred miles to the east with the eventual goal of forcing Moscow to kow tow to the supreme council of the globalist union.

21 posted on 04/19/2022 3:50:55 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Any security guarantees made by Russia would not be worth the paper on which they were printed. Given that, they have no real incentive to agree to Russian terms.

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They already agreed to an independent Donbass provinces back in 2014, the Minsk Agreements. The Ukies did not honor it.
That said, finally someone steps up, instead of the western war cheerleaders crying war, war, war, we are hearing peace.
By the way, Vlad is winning and like Trump, a powerful leader, does as he says.The Donbass will get their Independence.


22 posted on 04/19/2022 3:55:32 PM PDT by delta7
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To: DoodleDawg

What sort of deal would Trump propose?
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What the Ukies agreed upon in 2014, but violated. Now,most certainly, a modified Minsk Agreement.
Western MSM is not reporting the EU is suffering from Russia’s sanctions, and finally questioning Zelensky’s motives- world war.


23 posted on 04/19/2022 3:59:20 PM PDT by delta7
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To: ganeemead
Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America (4/18/22 from donaldjtrump.com)
24 posted on 04/19/2022 3:59:33 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Seruzawa

Not in anyway is Trump siding with Ukraine but people, including Ron De Santis and Don Jr. raised money for Ukraine. On the other hand lowlife Putinistas cultists are cheering the slaughter of women and children.


25 posted on 04/19/2022 4:01:37 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“Given that, they have no real incentive to agree to Russian terms.”

Please, stop making sense.

L


26 posted on 04/19/2022 4:02:06 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Prince of Space

Sounds very similar to pre WWI. Austria-Hungary sent an ultimatum to Serbia, in which England basically made the Serbs reject it full stop.

So, leaving the only way to get ‘satisfaction’ for Austria Hungary was war. It didn’t have to be war, except for the triple alliance forcing it.

Once again, we have multiple world powers manipulating events towards global war in Europe.


27 posted on 04/19/2022 4:02:08 PM PDT by KobraKai
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To: Prince of Space

Exactly they could have ended it right there with Ukraine staying militarily neutral and that would be the end of it. But Zelensky sold out to his globalist masters and now Ukraine is in shambles. If I was a Ukrainian I would be gunning for Zelensky right abut now. He’s a traitorous sellout and I hope Russia takes him out soon before he can cash in on his 30 pieces of silver. He’s a sleazy scumbag.


28 posted on 04/19/2022 4:02:51 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: Kazan

Exactly.


29 posted on 04/19/2022 4:02:59 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: Seruzawa

The Biden Republican Ukraineites are mostly Never Trumper Neocons. They’ll vote for McMuffin.


30 posted on 04/19/2022 4:04:11 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: MercyFlush

Russia/Putin want to seize parts of Ukraine (if not all of it) and they want to kill/enslave/oppress the ethnic Ukrainians whom they’ve demonized as Nazis.
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You would do well to get off the western MSM and start reading world ( non western fake news) news. Once Vlad secures the Donbass, negotiations will begin. The Ukies are getting grinded down, no tanks, ammo, fuel, aircraft, no replacements, Ukie units ineffective by attrition- Vlad has much more to “ invest” as needed.
The big, hoped for tank battle on the Dniepner plains will never happen, the Ukies are running on empty….
Vlad now closes the encircled Eastern Ukie Donbass provinces…

Good maps:
www.riafan.ru


31 posted on 04/19/2022 4:09:52 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Trump's statement does not make sense.

This war is about the long term, not the short term. Whoever wins will have control over these disputed areas for decades. For Ukrainian particular, the combination of surrendering a bunch of its territory and not being permitted to join a defensive military alliance means it is likely just a matter of time until Russia rearms, retools, and moves to gobble up the rest of the country. As Putin himself has stated publicly, he does not believe Ukraine is even a legitimate country or has a right to exist. So the Ukrainians uses as ultimately a war for national survival.

In other words, Ukraine rightly does not believe that Putin would abide by any agreements that were reached. Any security guarantees made by Russia would not be worth the paper on which they were printed. Given that, they have no real incentive to agree to Russian terms.

I didn't even read all that you typed here, but what is your opinion of Northern Ireland?   Northern Ireland is the very same as the Ukraine - Russia question.

32 posted on 04/19/2022 4:14:33 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Kazan

The Biden regime and globalists WANTED this war. They hoped to destroy with it. They failed. And, it’s time to the humane thing, save lives, preserve what is left of the western part of the country and stop using Ukraine to poke the Russian bear.
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How true. many are starting to finally starting to wake up ( especially the EU nations dependent on Vlads resources)- like the Covid vax - don’t get sucked in by a corrupted MSM….


33 posted on 04/19/2022 4:16:05 PM PDT by delta7
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To: jimwatx

Exactly they could have ended it right there with Ukraine staying militarily neutral and that would be the end of it. But Zelensky sold out to his globalist masters and now Ukraine is in shambles. If I was a Ukrainian I would be gunning for Zelensky right abut now. He’s a traitorous sellout and I hope Russia takes him out soon before he can cash in on his 30 pieces of silver. He’s a sleazy scumbag.

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Well said, but keep in mind both Zelensky and Vlad are corrupted, evil leaders. Support neither.


34 posted on 04/19/2022 4:21:17 PM PDT by delta7
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To: ganeemead

Lyndon LaRouche???? LOL


35 posted on 04/19/2022 4:22:12 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: delta7

I don’t support Putin other than I can understand why he made the decisions that he did. That’s just my objective opinion, I have no dog in this fight and my biggest concern is the US being dragged into it.


36 posted on 04/19/2022 4:29:44 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: higgmeister

I do not see how Ukraine is the exact same thing as Northern ireland.


37 posted on 04/19/2022 4:36:46 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Prince of Space

Budapest Agreement, anyone?


38 posted on 04/19/2022 4:39:41 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Defensive military alliance, that the US belongs to... ROFLMAO. How long have the NATO countries been at war around the globe? 21 years at least? Or maybe 34 years. Yeah, Iraq war 1, Bosnia, W O terror, and now in a proxy war with Russia. DEFENSIVE alliance that covers the entire globe. We would figure out how to defend China if need be.


39 posted on 04/19/2022 4:41:49 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: ganeemead

Ukraine will not win this war.
I do believe diplomacy or at least a major stalemate will be met by the end of this year.

Trump’s idiotic support of Mehmet Oz was the final nail for me to dump him.


40 posted on 04/19/2022 4:48:16 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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