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Russian navy evacuates flagship Moskva in Black Sea. Ukraine claims it was hit by a missile
CNN via MSN ^ | Updated: April 14, 2022 | By Brad Lendon, CNN

Posted on 04/14/2022 5:30:37 AM PDT by Red Badger

One of the Russian Navy's most important warships is either floating abandoned or at the bottom of the Black Sea, a massive blow to a military struggling against Ukrainian resistance 50 days into Vladimir Putin's invasion of his neighbor.

Russian sailors have evacuated the guided-missile cruiser Moskva, the flagship of its Black Sea fleet, after a fire that detonated ammunition aboard, Russian state media reported Wednesday.

State media outlets TASS and RIA, citing the Russian Defense Ministry, said the Moskva had been seriously damaged in the incident and that the cause of the fire was being investigated. The Russian reports gave no information on possible casualties.

But hours earlier, a Ukrainian official claimed the Russian warship had been hit by cruise missiles fired from Ukraine.

Due to large storms over the Black Sea obscuring satellite imagery and sensory satellite data, CNN has not been able to visually confirm the ship has been hit or its current status, but analysts noted that a fire on board such a ship can lead to a catastrophic explosion that could sink it.

Whatever the reason for the fire, the analysts say it strikes hard at the heart of the Russian navy as well as national pride, comparable to the US Navy losing a battleship during World War II or an aircraft carrier today.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: blacksea; braking; chechens; chechnya; didyousearch; isaidbudlight; moskva; nyuknyuknyuk; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; russianaggression; ukraine; war; yousankmybattleship; zottherussiantrolls
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To: Red Badger

Bad Vlad is having a combo -—>>> Meltdown and conniption fit. I sure hope he doesn’t bust a calcified artery. For sure Vlad is on high pressure meds and F ‘im. The devil is awaiting his arrival.


21 posted on 04/14/2022 6:36:55 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Um, it’s been confirmed by everyone. What is the lie?


22 posted on 04/14/2022 6:47:25 AM PDT by bhl
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To: Abathar

‘Moskva operating under own power’ - Kirby

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/pentagon-we-know-russian-warship-suffered-an-explosion-137706565695


23 posted on 04/14/2022 6:59:16 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: Ouderkirk

Well, to be fair - if a few missiles were fired at a ship, and soon afterwards a mysterious fire broke out on that ship...

Seems like a 2 + 2 = 4 kind of assumption, enough to at least give the benefit of the doubt.


24 posted on 04/14/2022 7:02:19 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: bhl
Um, it’s been confirmed by everyone. What is the lie?

It's a conundrum.

25 posted on 04/14/2022 7:05:29 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: larrytown

Not to be morbid but I expect to see pictures or video of the ship either on fire, or of the damage, with the crew in life rafts etc.

Right now, we are being told that there were a few missiles sent at the ship, and a mysterious fire onboard.

It is not a huge leap to go from missile impact to onboard fire. But in today’s environment of congenital liars on all sides...unedited video is necessary to confirm.


26 posted on 04/14/2022 7:09:34 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (The democRATS are not looking to govern, they intIend to RULE.)
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To: bhl
l how is this propaganda crap? The Russians confirmed it. Sounds quite newsworthy by any standard of journalism.

Russia didn't claim it was sunk by Ukraine (don't think it was explicitly denied either), they only said there was a fire that spread to ammunition stores.

Either way, it's very bad imagery for Ruska - either a bunch of peasants sunk their big boat, or their own regular operations are so incompetent they blew up their own ship.

Hell, I would say blaming it on Ukraine would be less embarrassing!
27 posted on 04/14/2022 7:11:26 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Ouderkirk

Now just a cotton pickin’ minit here. Let’s be fair. CNN does have as much credibility as a beauty salon gossip circle in a small town.


28 posted on 04/14/2022 7:16:51 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (January 6, worst assault on democracy since the Reichstag Fire)
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To: Ouderkirk
Why publish this crap if you can't verify it?

The key word in CNN's disclaimer is 'visually.' They can find confirmation easily from Russian news, but because CNN doesn't have someone on site with eyes on, they say they can't confirm. But there is no doubt because Russia has confirmed something amiss with their own ship and they have no reason to do so. In this way, CNN is coloring the news by sewing doubt. And that's why they can't be trusted.

29 posted on 04/14/2022 8:29:42 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: wastedyears
Be funny if the untrustworthy mainstream media tried to use a picture from this game:

Especially since that looks like a rather poor model of a battleship.

30 posted on 04/14/2022 8:34:27 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: Svartalfiar

It isn’t sunk. It was evacuated and is getting towed to port.

The 3rd option is the US gave the Ukrainians a little help aiming their weapons.


31 posted on 04/14/2022 8:36:09 AM PDT by bhl
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Russians: Ammunition just kind of blew up...like on that other ship.

Observer: you mean the one that Ukraine hit with a guided rocket artillery.


32 posted on 04/14/2022 8:50:34 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: bhl

It would make for interesting theater for the Moskva to be towed to Sevastopol only to be sunk under a hail of Ukrainian missiles at the harbor’s entrance.


33 posted on 04/14/2022 9:00:12 AM PDT by T. Rustin Noone (the angels wanna wear my red shoes......)
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To: T. Rustin Noone

It’s all over but the scene of the Ukrainian tractor, towing the ship.


34 posted on 04/14/2022 9:09:54 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: Lurker

Pentagon says it’s headed to port on it’s own power.


35 posted on 04/14/2022 9:23:50 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Red Badger

Could very well be a faulty missile on board. Or a combo of both, and crappy damage control (something the US Navy excels at, not so much Russia or China).


36 posted on 04/14/2022 12:09:48 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Mariner

The US Navy should sink it. It should put the Black Sea Fleet amd Baltic sea fleet on the bottom of tje sea. And let’s sink the Russian Pacific Fleet and the Chinese Navy too. Those carriers need to see ocean bottom.


37 posted on 04/14/2022 12:12:40 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Thunder90

“The US Navy should sink it. It should put the Black Sea Fleet amd Baltic sea fleet on the bottom of tje sea. And let’s sink the Russian Pacific Fleet and the Chinese Navy too. Those carriers need to see ocean bottom.”

Hey great idea!

For the suicidal maniacs that want to see a worldwide conflagration.


38 posted on 04/14/2022 1:17:14 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Red Badger

What are the words to, “Nearer my God to Thee”, inRussian


39 posted on 04/14/2022 1:17:53 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Let’s go Brandon!)
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To: Red Badger; marcusmaximus; Zhang Fei; SpeedyInTexas

Russian news (RIA) is now reporting that it sunk, while being towed:

https://ria.ru/20220414/kreyser-1783626130.html

“MOSCOW, April 14 - RIA Novosti. The missile cruiser “Moskva”, which was damaged due to the detonation of ammunition, sank during towing, the Defense Ministry said.

“During the towing of the Moskva cruiser to the port of destination, due to damage to the hull received during the fire from the detonation of ammunition, the ship lost stability. In the conditions of stormy seas, the ship sank,” the military department said.

On the night of April 14, the Ministry of Defense reported that a fire had started on the Moskva cruiser, causing the ammunition to detonate. The crew was completely evacuated. At the same time, the main missile armament was not damaged, the source of ignition was localized and the ship remained buoyant.”


40 posted on 04/14/2022 2:20:36 PM PDT by BeauBo
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