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Germany willing to become guarantor state for Ukraine peace
Yeni Safak ^

Posted on 03/30/2022 8:11:10 PM PDT by FarCenter

Germany is willing to become a “guarantor state” for a potential peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia, a government spokesman said on Wednesday.

Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy discussed the issue in their recent phone calls, government spokesman Steffen Hebestreit told a news conference in Berlin.

“Germany, like several other countries, is of course ready to act as a security guarantor for Ukraine,” he stressed, but added that the matter could be subject to further deliberations as many details were still not clear.

During peace negotiations in Istanbul on Tuesday, Ukrainian officials signaled readiness to negotiate a “neutral status,” but demanded security guarantees for their country.

Ukrainian negotiator David Arakhamia told reporters that they are seeking an international agreement, where countries including Turkiye, Germany, Canada, Italy, Poland and Israel serve as the guarantor states.

(Excerpt) Read more at yenisafak.com ...


TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: chechens; chechnya; germany; guarantorukraine; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; riseofthenazis; russia; russianaggression; ukraine; zottherussiantrolls
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1 posted on 03/30/2022 8:11:10 PM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Uh-oh.


2 posted on 03/30/2022 8:11:56 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day)
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To: FarCenter

What a joke. Germany can’t defend itself, depending on US occupation bases. So, what do they expect, send their troops and rely on the US to save their butts?


3 posted on 03/30/2022 8:13:58 PM PDT by Reno89519 (FJB. Respect America, Embrace America, Buy American, Hire American.)
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To: FarCenter
Ob’s stürmt oder schneit,
Ob die Sonne uns lacht,
Der Tag glühend heiß
Oder eiskalt die Nacht,
Verstaubt sind die Gesichter,
Doch froh ist unser Sinn,
Ja unser Sinn.
Es braust unser Panzer
Im Sturmwind dahin!

4 posted on 03/30/2022 8:15:14 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: FarCenter

This is so hilarious. The West hasn’t been weaker since Carter. Russia will own East Ukraine and the sanctions regime will not endure. Europe cannot survive without Russian supplies. Trump warned these idiots and they laughed at him. Biden and the Communists are willfully destroying America so things will get much worse for us regardless. Get ready folks.


5 posted on 03/30/2022 8:15:41 PM PDT by montag813
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To: FarCenter

Just what the russians want. Armed German soldiers on their borders. Hmmmm. Not a good look.


6 posted on 03/30/2022 8:20:16 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Reno89519
The Germans are now spending E100 billion in the next year or so on defense. That gives them the largest defense budget in Europe. They're talking to the Israelis about buying Iron Dome and talking about additional missile defense.

Seems to be a real sea change.

7 posted on 03/30/2022 8:20:25 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: The Antiyuppie

Just like in the good old days.

8 posted on 03/30/2022 8:20:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: montag813

A very good summation.


9 posted on 03/30/2022 8:21:08 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: FarCenter

Funny.

Germany is buying Russian gas, oil etc...just like nothing happened.

I think this whole thing is a 10% for the Big Guy thing.


10 posted on 03/30/2022 8:21:14 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: The Antiyuppie

Germany knows where it’s bread is buttered.


11 posted on 03/30/2022 8:21:30 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Goldwater Conservative)
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To: Reno89519

> What a joke. Germany can’t defend itself, depending on US occupation bases. <

During a NATO exercise back in 2015 a German armored unit was caught using mounted black broomsticks instead of machine guns. Ukraine had better hope that things have improved since then.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6743568/germany-soldiers-broomsticks-nato-donald-trump-angela-merkel-defence-spending/


12 posted on 03/30/2022 8:21:50 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: montag813
Europe cannot survive without Russian supplies.

It will be painful but they are talking about a total cutoff of imports from Russia. The Poles are about to close all land traffic with Belarus.

13 posted on 03/30/2022 8:22:45 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: FarCenter

The whole fix is in. Germany “keeps the peace” in Ukraine while reliant upon Russian oil. All that’s left now is the big fat bribe to Zelensky to act contrite and accept Russia’s terms for occupation.


14 posted on 03/30/2022 8:22:48 PM PDT by jz638
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To: pierrem15
That was a great scene, with Robert Shaw and Hans Christian Blech!

Regards,

15 posted on 03/30/2022 8:23:19 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Reno89519

“What a joke. Germany can’t defend itself, depending on US occupation bases.”

The EU knows the sooner Ukraine gives up, the better the chance the EU has to get it’s energy supply back to something closer to normal.
Germany-EU has no intention of fighting for the Ukraine. What little the EU has done was just to brown-nose the US.


16 posted on 03/30/2022 8:26:08 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: pierrem15
Best scene!

... among all the bad special effects.

17 posted on 03/30/2022 8:27:57 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken.)
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To: pierrem15

Die Lange Lange Strasse Lang - Wolfgang Borchert

They buried 57 near Voronezh. I am Lieutenant Fischer. They have forgotten me. I wasn’t quite dead yet. I’ve been wounded twice. Now I’m Mr. Fischer. I am 25 years old. 25 times 57. And they buried them at Voronezh. Just me, me, I’m still on the go. I still have to get the tram. I’m hungry ...

57 come to Germany every night ... 57 come to my bed every night, 57 ask every night: where’s your company? At Voronezh, I say then. Buried, I say. Buried at Voronezh. 57 ask man by man: why? And 57 times I’m silent.

57 go to their father at night. 57 and Lieutenant Fischer. I am a lieutenant Fischer. 57 ask their father at night: Father, why? And the father remains silent 57 times. And he’s freezing in his shirt. But he comes with.

57 go to the mayor at night. 57 and the father and me. 57 ask the mayor at night: mayor, why? And the mayor remains silent 57 times. And he’s freezing in his shirt. But he comes with.

57 go to the pastor at night. 57 and the father and the mayor and me. 57 ask the pastor at night: pastor, why? And the pastor remains silent 57 times. And he’s freezing in his shirt. But he comes with.

57 go to the schoolmaster at night. 57 and the father and the mayor and the pastor and me. 57 ask the schoolmaster at night: schoolmaster, why? And the schoolmaster remains silent 57 times. And he’s freezing in his shirt. But he comes with.

57 go to the general at night. 57 and the father and the mayor and the pastor and the schoolmaster and me. 57 ask the general at night: General, why? And the general — the general doesn’t even turn around. Then the father kills him. And the pastor? the pastor remains silent.

57 go to the minister at night. 57 and the father and the mayor and the pastor and the schoolmaster and me. 57 ask the minister at night: Minister why? The Minister was very frightened. He had already hid behind the champagne basket, behind the champagne. And then he raised his glass and toasted south and north and west and east. And then he says: Germany, comrades, Germany! Therefore! Then the 57 look around. Silent. So long and silent. And they look south and north and west and east And then they quietly ask: Germany? Therefore? Then the 57 turn around. And never look around. 57 lie down in grave again at Voronezh. They have old poor faces. Like women. Like mother. And they say eternally: Why? Therefore? Therefore?

They buried 57 at Voronezh. I’m above ground. I am Lieutenant Fischer. I am 25. I still want to go to the tram. I want to. I’ve been traveling for a long time. I’m just hungry. But I have to. 57 ask: why? And I’m above ground. And I’ve been on the long, long road for so long.


18 posted on 03/30/2022 8:30:38 PM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Sad when the wieners in the EU take the lead in assertiveness over our bumbling Admin.


19 posted on 03/30/2022 8:31:08 PM PDT by jarwulf
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To: dfwgator

“Just like in the good old days.”

Once it was the US and Russia forces working together to defeat the Nazis. Now it’s the US and Nazis working together to defeat Russia. Kind of an ironic, bizarro-world full circle.


20 posted on 03/30/2022 8:31:39 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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