Ukraine Captures Russian Secret Electronic Warfare System

Yahoo News ^ | 3/26/2022 | Alia Shoaib

[dvan]

Ukraine captures one of Russia's most advanced electronic warfare systems, which could reveal military secrets, reports say.

[dvan]

Great they let Russia know they have it and are sending it to the U.S.. In WWII when the submarine with German's Code machine was captured they should have let Germany know about it.

[Who is John Galt?]

It's probably just the yahoos at Yahoo! repackaging some 'old news' so it looks really REALLY important and generates lots of clicks...

;>)

[Thunder90]

If something important was actually captured it would been kept hush hush and hurried out to NATO for analysis. The fact that they are talking about it indicates it’s not the latest Russian system, and confirms the hypothesis that the Russians are using older systems in Ukraine.

[catnipman]

very old news ... and the Ukes just got the command module portion, the least important part ...

[escapefromboston]

Again?

[tlozo]

It's probably just the yahoos at Yahoo! repackaging some 'old news' so it looks really REALLY important and generates lots of clicks...

Russia Abandons One Of Its Most Advanced Electronic Warfare Systems

Ukraine has captured one of Russia's most advanced electronic warfare systems. The Krasukha-4 command module jams low-orbit satellites, drones and missiles, and can reportedly track NATO aircraft. It has a range of 186 miles and is designed to block airborne warning and control systems (AWACS) as well as protect Russian forces from surveillance systems.

The unit is split into two parts, a command post module and an electronic warfare system, which are mounted on two trucks.

Ukrainian forces stumbled across the device near Kyiv, and photos posted online show the large unit covered in branches, in what appears to have been an attempt by Russia to camouflage it.

https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-russia-abandons-one-of-its-most-advanced-electronic-warfare-systems-20220326

[Vermont Lt]

German knew we had their code machine. They didn’t think we had their code.

[themidnightskulker]

I saw this story 3 or 4 days ago.

[MercyFlush]

Apples and oranges.

In WW2 we needed the Germans to keep using their code so we could break it and find their submarines.

Today we need the Russians to stop using their ECM capability because they can’t replace it. If they don’t stop using it it’ll become a death trap when we ID the RF emissions and tell everyone how to target them.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

Great they let Russia know they have it

There is precedent. "Congressman 'credited' with sinking up to ten submarines."

I don't think publicizing the capture is a big deal. The Russians must have known they had it. I worked with an optical Engineer (World War II veteran) who later worked for Norden. His boss at Norden was a German, who said that all during the war he had Norden Bombsight on his desk, despite the extraordinary care Americans took to safeguard it.

Precision bombing was not the German's style, and there was little they could do to counter it, other than what they were doing anyway, creating smoke, and lighting decoy fires. As a public relations coup, I think the value of publicizing it outweighs the possible loss of intelligence value. The Americans will study it to learn how to counter it, and probably not share the information with their allies, with the possible exception of the Five Eyes.

[Who is John Galt?]

I saw this story 3 or 4 days ago.

That's Yahoo! - three or four days late and a dollar short...

;>)

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

German knew we had their code machine.

The first ground rule of cryptology is the assumption that the enemy has a copy of your machine. The value of the captured U-Boat(s) (there were two) was the code books and "wheel settings".

The agency most directly responsible for cracking the Enigma was the Wehrmacht, closely followed by the Kriegsmarine. German COMSEC was atrocious. Without the help of the Wehrmacht, Bletchley Park, for all its brilliance and endeavor would have been an expensive dry hole.

[xp38]

You must think in Russian

[mylife]

all smoke!!

[mylife]

all smoke!!

[HiryusanMkII]

says Nigel Hawthorn

[Enterprise]

Seriously Andrei, you've lost a secret electronic warfare system?

[PIF]

This is only the command center, and there was a report it was badly damaged. The radar and jammers were not captured - that is the important part.

The basically captured an empty box.

[FReepaholic]

...Russia Abandons One Of Its Most Advanced Electronic Warfare Systems...

I imagine they removed and/or destroyed anything of value.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

Could also be planted vehicle with hidden monitoring and or disruption devices in it. In other words, an electronic “Trojan Horse”.