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Russia reveals it has had 'almost 10,000 soldiers killed with another 16,000 injured' as satellite photos show Putin's forces digging in around Kyiv and 'planting mines' in sign that their advance has stalled
Daily Mail ^ | 3/22/2022 | Mark Nicol

Posted on 03/22/2022 5:45:24 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: Mariner

KGB Putin’s “siege” of Kiev is flopping.

Ukrainian troops have cut off the supply lines to Russians in Hostomel, Bucha and Irpin.

Russian troops in the suburbs that haven’t been encircled by the Ukrainians are fleeing back to Belarus.


21 posted on 03/22/2022 6:26:36 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

The siege is traditional Russian tactic of using massed guns. The tactic defeated the Wehrmacht.

This time though, the Ukranian drones can destroy the gunners unimpeded and thus create openings for the tank destroying rockets.


22 posted on 03/22/2022 6:27:02 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: Chainmail

Not only are the Russians stopped outside Kiev, they’re being encircled now in Bucha, Irpin and Hostomel. No supply lines. No escape.


23 posted on 03/22/2022 6:28:09 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Drew68

I agree I have a hard time believing that 10,000 of their soldiers have been killed. If that is the case Russians ground forces and equipment is very poor and poorly trained.


24 posted on 03/22/2022 6:34:12 AM PDT by wild74
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To: 2banana

Don’t tell it to the resident neocons, they’d say you are a Putin’s puppet.


25 posted on 03/22/2022 6:34:33 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: marcusmaximus

LOL. By whom?:)


26 posted on 03/22/2022 6:35:30 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: marcusmaximus

“Ukrainian troops have cut off the supply lines to Russians in Hostomel, Bucha and Irpin.

Russian troops in the suburbs that haven’t been encircled by the Ukrainians are fleeing back to Belarus.”

Worse than disinformation, that’s delusion.


27 posted on 03/22/2022 6:36:31 AM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Krosan

I disagree. I’ve actually read a translated version of their field manual equivalents, and they’ve made no secret of their doctrine since the fall of the Soviet empire.

Further, their doctrine depends on whether they actually want the city intact afterwards. They had a pretty big re-think after Afghanistan and their failure in First Chechnya.


28 posted on 03/22/2022 6:37:57 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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“Not only are the Russians stopped outside Kiev, they’re being encircled now in Bucha, Irpin and Hostomel. No supply lines. No escape.”

AP reporting this morning those suburbs have been ceded by Ukraine and Russia is moving additional supplies in, digging in.


29 posted on 03/22/2022 6:50:35 AM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: marcusmaximus

Lol!


30 posted on 03/22/2022 6:51:32 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: 2banana

They got to get resupplied. The Ukrainians are killing their supply convoys. A fact that can not be denied.

Then the mud season and the heavy equipment can not get to hell off the roads.

Once they get that set..


31 posted on 03/22/2022 6:57:17 AM PDT by crz
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The "stationary" part is what infantry tries to avoid, unless they have run onto serious opposition and the offensive has stalled.
Modern maneuver warfare - which is what Russia's force is supposed to be tailored for - should be able to maneuver around opposition and attack from the flanks.
That they aren't, shows that they have hit something that is stopping them and they can't get around it.


Maneuver warfare requires the ability to move. It appears that the Ruskies had their supply lines cut, and they are stuck in places. They also appear to lack air supremacy. Things would then be reduced to more basic tactics favoring the Ukrainian, like WWI with trench warfare and more disciplined advances to avoid creating vulnerable salients.
32 posted on 03/22/2022 6:59:04 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: marcusmaximus

Daily Mail propaganda is always good for a laugh.
the first casualty of war is truth


33 posted on 03/22/2022 7:01:57 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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The tactic defeated the Wehrmacht

Thousands of T-34s and American-supplied planes, and their "tactic" of throwing wave after wave of expendable troops against the German guns also helped

Plus, Germany also had to fight all the Allied nations in the West


34 posted on 03/22/2022 7:02:24 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: marcusmaximus

Get out of Ukraine.


35 posted on 03/22/2022 7:02:49 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

I take everything they are saying with a grain of salt along with the American media. The real story is not rosy and this is a slow decapitation op. This is not the blitzkrieg kind of op people are trying to make it out to be.


36 posted on 03/22/2022 7:05:15 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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"Not only are the Russians stopped outside Kiev, they’re being encircled now in Bucha, Irpin and Hostomel. No supply lines. No escape."

Supplies are going to be an increasing challenge for the Russians. An article posted yesterday included an interview with a U.S. Army "Truck Auditor" who could tell that the Russians had habitually not performed routine maintenance from looking at pictures of captured and abandoned Russian vehicles. In his opinion, the tires he saw could not stand heavy usage for more than a few weeks in mud or war-damaged roads. He made the point that in April or May any Russian who was more than 100 Km from the border was not going to get resupplied because there would be too few operable trucks.

37 posted on 03/22/2022 7:05:44 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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because they have admitted themselves that 6 of their generals have been killed.

Russia has only officially confirmed the death of one general while U.S. intelligence has not confirmed the deaths of any of them.

38 posted on 03/22/2022 7:09:02 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: canuck_conservative

Claiming credit for a Russian win is garbage history


39 posted on 03/22/2022 7:10:21 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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Why are you assuming they are using maneuver doctrine?

Very few know what they grand plan is. SO far Russia has taken quite a bit of the east and south. Kiev stands so far, but if you look at the map they are only open to the south down river. Like Russia is trying to get the civies and non combatants out.

This is far from shock and awe, but if you go back a few hundred years this is a pretty good plan for besieging a city back in the days of the ideals of Just War.

If that is the case, the same rules say that after a period of time, anyone who remains in the city is considered dead and will be treated accordingly.


40 posted on 03/22/2022 7:11:11 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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