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Ukraine Worked With Democrats Against Trump in 2016 to Stop Putin. The Bet Backfired Badly.
Real Clear Investigations ^

Posted on 03/10/2022 5:11:28 AM PST by FarCenter

Six years ago, before Russia’s full-scale invasion of their country, the Ukrainians bet that a Hillary Clinton presidency would offer better protection from Russian President Vladimir Putin, even though he had invaded Crimea during the Obama-Biden administration, whose Russian policies Clinton vowed to continue.

Working with both the Obama administration and the Clinton campaign, Ukrainian government officials intervened in the 2016 race to help Clinton and hurt Trump in a sweeping and systematic foreign influence operation that's been largely ignored by the press. The improper, if not illegal, operation was run chiefly out of the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, where officials worked hand-in-glove with a Ukrainian-American activist and Clinton campaign operative to attack the Trump campaign. The Obama White House was also deeply involved in an effort to groom their own favored leader in Ukraine and then work with his government to dig up dirt on – and even investigate -- their political rival.

Ukrainian and Democratic operatives also huddled with American journalists to spread damaging information on Trump and his advisers – including allegations of illicit Russian-tied payments that, though later proved false, forced the resignation of his campaign manager Paul Manafort. The embassy actually weighed a plan to get Congress to investigate Manafort and Trump and stage hearings in the run-up to the election.

As it worked behind the scenes to undermine Trump, Ukraine also tried to kneecap him publicly. Ukraine's ambassador took the extraordinary step of attacking Trump in an Op-Ed article published in The Hill, an influential U.S. Capitol newspaper, while other top Ukrainian officials slammed the GOP candidate on social media.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearinvestigations.com ...


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1 posted on 03/10/2022 5:11:28 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter
Alex Vindman...can you come to the phone please. That little pr***.

AND his twin brother worked in the office next door.

2 posted on 03/10/2022 5:16:00 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: FarCenter

...and the Bidenistas here wonder why I say let Ukraine fight this war on their own.


3 posted on 03/10/2022 5:17:00 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: FarCenter

Granted they appear brave, but I don’t much care what happens over there.


4 posted on 03/10/2022 5:17:27 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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To: FarCenter

I could care less what happens between Ukraine and Russia. Two corrupt nations. Unfortunately it’s the average citizen that always takes it in the shorts.


5 posted on 03/10/2022 5:18:53 AM PST by MGunny ( )
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To: MGunny

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60555472


6 posted on 03/10/2022 5:19:51 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: FarCenter; Covenantor; MtnClimber

For a much deeper understanding of the Ukraine war, I highly recommend these two videos to be seen in this order.

The first is Oliver Stone’s 2016 documentary “Ukraine On Fire.”

https://rumble.com/vw7ykf-ukraine-on-fire-oliver-stone-2016.html

Then watch:
“Why is Russia Failing?” The War in Ukraine Explained: A Basic Operational and Historical Overview
Excellent analysis of the current military situation in Ukraine, (March 7), from the Ukrainian POV, with much current combat video footage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYoH4SVeJk0


7 posted on 03/10/2022 5:21:10 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Germany worked against Reagan when it came to installing Pershings.


8 posted on 03/10/2022 5:22:07 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (S)
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To: FarCenter

This has been my thinking from GO. I could not care less what happens now. Play stupid games and win progressive prizes.


9 posted on 03/10/2022 5:22:50 AM PST by JerseyDvl (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I wonder how those dual citizens are feeling right about now?


10 posted on 03/10/2022 5:24:41 AM PST by JerseyDvl (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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To: MGunny

In the beginning, I was on Ukraine’s side, thinking Russia was using our weakness to go into the country for its mineral assets. That was a couple of days. Of course, I pray for the innocent and those living righteous lives.

After a couple of days of hearing and reading about Ukraine’s corruptness and evil, I didn’t like both! So, I began praying what I do for USA, that GOD is bringing us to a place where HE is showing us evil Satan is bringing and it’s up to us to bring HIS kingdom here by binding on earth His kingdom and loosening on earth evil.

Christians and those who want to live by Biblical principles are going to have to step up all over the world soon.

Praying and imagining The Lord’s Prayer working all over the world to deliver us from evil and bring us to a billion soul harvest is my heart!!!


11 posted on 03/10/2022 5:30:09 AM PST by YouGoTexasGirl ( )
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To: FarCenter
Shift Change - **** You MSM

Asterisks mine. Great political cartoon at link.

12 posted on 03/10/2022 5:30:33 AM PST by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: YouGoTexasGirl

:-)


13 posted on 03/10/2022 5:34:56 AM PST by xenia ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: All

Politico.com
By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN
01/11/2017

<>Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire; foreign aid billions threatened
<>Kiev scrambles to make amends with president-elect Trump after working to boost Clinton.
<>President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, and the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the presidential race.

Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.

A Politico investigation found
<><>Ukrainian govt officials helped Hillary and trashed Trump, questioning his fitness for office.
<><>They disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption
<><>They suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election.
<><>They helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers.

A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.

The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.

Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect. And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don’t think we’ve ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we’ve seen in this case.”

There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election.

And President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, along with the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the race.


14 posted on 03/10/2022 5:35:50 AM PST by Liz ("Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: FarCenter
After Trump won the election in spite of her efforts to sabotage him, [Democrat party operative] Chalupa predicted: “Under President Trump, the Kremlin could likely invade U.S. allies in Europe without U.S. opposition.”

Not only did Russia not invade Europe “under Trump,” it didn’t even invade Ukraine. Rather, the invasion came under Biden, whose campaign Chalupa supported. Yet she continues to blame Trump. Recent tweets show a still-obsessed Chalupa has not dialed back her extremist views about Trump or Manafort, whom she believes should be prosecuted for “treason."

In a Feb. 28 post on Twitter, for example, Chalupa claimed that Putin installed “a puppet regime in the U.S. with the help of Paul Manafort.” The previous day, she tweeted, “We had a Putin installed Trump presidency.” A day before that, she wrote: “Now would be a good time to release the Putin-Trump treason calls.”

And on Feb. 25, Chalupa tweeted another wild conspiracy theory: "It’s important to note that Putin’s imperial aspirations are of a global criminal empire, as we saw when he installed Donald J. Trump president and tried to turn the U.S. into a Russian satellite state."

Long read, but well worth it! Bottom line - what we're seeing today is just a continuation of the Democrats' "Russia/Trump collusion" hoax...

15 posted on 03/10/2022 5:40:49 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: MGunny

I could care less what happens between Ukraine and Russia. Two corrupt nations.


keep counting there are more than two


16 posted on 03/10/2022 5:43:49 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: BobL
Exactly.

Also ...

"Putin never threatened to fire me for refusing to get a vaccine that doesn't work." -- wise words from a Freeper

17 posted on 03/10/2022 5:44:40 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
...but I don’t much care what happens over there.

...which isn't a big surprise, because there are NOT a lot of "U.S. vital interests" in Ukraine. And that's why we're seeing so many over-the-top emotional appeals, from people who want war with Russia, and really don't care that it could involve nuclear weapons...

18 posted on 03/10/2022 5:46:28 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: BobL

It is sad that about 30% of those on FR are full-on “Bidenistas” as you say, while calling anyone who wants to sit this one out a “Putin Puffer” or an outright traitor.


19 posted on 03/10/2022 5:59:18 AM PST by ohioman
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To: Sacajaweau

This article kind of mixes up the previous Ukrainian administrations. The Yanukovych - pro Russian administration helped by Manafort and Poroshenko anti Russian administration, which was favorite of Vice-president Biden and his lovely son.

Both were corrupt, but everybody liked them US, Russia, whoever.

Finally, Ukrainian people voted them out! All of them!
So now, “journalist” here are pulling all that sins of long ago and holding them against Ukraine. Just when they straightened themselves up! Shame!

Obviously, Putin does not like, free, democratic and non-corrupt Ukraine. He does not want well run country on his borders.

Why FR people side with him, I have no idea?


20 posted on 03/10/2022 6:07:44 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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