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Russia’s chaotic and confusing invasion of Ukraine is baffling military analysts
CNBC ^ | 04-MAR-2022 | Holly Ellyatt

Posted on 03/04/2022 5:17:56 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas

One week into Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and military analysts are united on one front, at least: Russia’s invasion has not gone entirely to plan, looking disorganized, uncoordinated and sluggish to observers.

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“It’s going to be worse than what the Russians had in Afghanistan, that’s what the Ukrainians are going to do,” he added, alluding to the then Soviet Union’s drawn-out, bloody, costly and unpopular invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 that lasted 10 years and led to the loss of around 15,000 Soviet soldiers.

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Russia has not been able to swiftly achieve its military objectives, he said, because “the Russians are not nearly as well trained as they think they are or as we thought they were, they’re not nearly as well equipped,” he said.

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A Ukrainian insurgency will eat up the Russian army for years. It will bleed the Russian military and economy.

Defeat will be tough for Little Pukin to stomach, but "like it or not you must bear it, my beauty".

1 posted on 03/04/2022 5:17:56 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas
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To: SpeedyInTexas

IS called fog and all analysts possess


2 posted on 03/04/2022 5:20:47 AM PST by no-to-illegals ( The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
A legacy of Soviet times - put more Army on paper than in the field.

It works if the country being invaded believes the paper and surrenders.
3 posted on 03/04/2022 5:21:29 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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Or could be a ruse


4 posted on 03/04/2022 5:22:14 AM PST by no-to-illegals ( The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

They haven’t conquered a 40 million population country in 2 weeks! It’s a Russian disaster!


5 posted on 03/04/2022 5:23:23 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Who would expected the “unexpected”


6 posted on 03/04/2022 5:23:35 AM PST by no-to-illegals ( The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Worse than Afghanistan?

Does this “analysts” even know that one third to one half of the population in the Ukraine is Russian or favors Russia?

That east of Dnieper they constitute a majority of the population?

That thousands of new volunteers have already joined them.

That this could spiral into a bitter civil war?


7 posted on 03/04/2022 5:23:54 AM PST by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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“baffling military analysts”

I expect the media’s analysts to have no idea what is going on. Simply put, Russia is administering a thorough azzkickin’. Twitter expects everything to be happen within an hours’ time, like it is on live action TV shows. This is why they’re baffled, they’re stuck in “instant coffee” mode. But life rarely, if ever, works out that way.


8 posted on 03/04/2022 5:25:56 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Putin is KGB not military. He thought he could steam roll over weak sloths. Didn’t happen


9 posted on 03/04/2022 5:26:46 AM PST by Nifster (I’m see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Fido969

You’re rooting for Putin?


10 posted on 03/04/2022 5:30:20 AM PST by LouAvul (The liberal's mantra: " I don't understand why this has to be so hard.")
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To: SpeedyInTexas

“baffling military analysts”

That can happen when they are “educated” or trained not to think out of the box.


11 posted on 03/04/2022 5:31:46 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: 2banana
Does this “analysts” even know that one third to one half of the population in the Ukraine is Russian or favors Russia?

That east of Dnieper they constitute a majority of the population?

There certainly are people in Ukraine who favor Russia, and a significant number of Russian speakers.

How many there are, and how many support the invasion is very unclear.

Many Russian speakers do not favor the invasion.

The fog of war is dense.

I suspect many Russians in Ukraine do not favor the invasion.

12 posted on 03/04/2022 5:32:12 AM PST by marktwain
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“Does this “analysts” even know that one third to one half of the population in the Ukraine is Russian or favors Russia?”

False. They are not Russian, they are Ukrainians who speak Russian. They may have been pro-Russia in 2014, but Putin’s invasion ended that.

It is Russian speaking Ukrainians who are fighting like devils in Kharkiv to keep their city out of Putin’s hands.


13 posted on 03/04/2022 5:32:21 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Defeat will be tough for Little Putin to stomach, but “like it or not you must bear it, my beauty”.

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Putin will go nuclear before accepting defeat but he will win his war eventually without nuclear, with horrendous results for both Russia and Ukraine.


14 posted on 03/04/2022 5:33:22 AM PST by Graybeard58 (The China virus doesn't scare me, Venezuelaism does.)
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To: LouieFisk

“I expect the media’s analysts to have no idea what is going on. Simply put, Russia is administering a thorough azzkickin’. Twitter expects everything to be happen within an hours’ time, like it is on live action TV shows. This is why they’re baffled, they’re stuck in “instant coffee” mode. But life rarely, if ever, works out that way.”

I agree that the media is clueless here. We don’t have good reports on the ground to follow events. Everyone except those there are really ignorant of the scope. Saying all that, it wasn’t in Russia interest to expose 50% of their entire military force in an operation that is this slow. Further, who bombs nuclear power plants and waste depots? How does this further your cause or your perception? No, there is alot of evidence to suggest that things aren’t going the way Putin wanted, even if overwhelming military might prevails.


15 posted on 03/04/2022 5:34:18 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: \/\/ayne
A legacy of Soviet times - put more Army on paper than in the field.

And, like Communist China, and all Communist countries, Russians appear to be adverse to any level of preventative maintenance.

A military guy in charge of equipment in the USA did an analysis of an abandoned missile system the Russkies abandoned in Ukraine. He noted that the tires looked had blown out, and more of them blew out as the Ukrainians tried to tow it so they could put it to use.

According to him, this was clear evidence the Russkies had let the vehicle sit in one place for at least a year, without bothering to move it to prevent the degradation of the tires. He stated that when he was in the military, according to their training, the sun will degrade tires and make them brittle. Consequently, you needed to move the vehicle every so often, plus inspect and clean out the vehicle for any animals that may have taken up residence in its innerds (which reminds me, an old car of mine I let my half-brother have (I demote him to half-brother when thinking of what he did to this car) became infested and inoperable after he let it sit in his backyard for months, possibly up to a year, without bothering to move it. All the tires were flat too).

From the soldier's point of view, the state of the tires, and the apparent phenomena of mass abandonment of armor by the Russians, showed the Russkies were not performing preventative maintenance on their armor, and that the armor had probably been sitting out in the sun in one place for a year before it was put into operation.

He also stated these problems would get worse with mud, which is why the Russians are keeping to the roads and not driving in fields. The mud will tear up the tires even worse. This would not be a problem in the south of Ukraine, where the temperature is a little better and mud isn't an issue, hence why the phenomena of abandoned vehicles in the south doesn't seem to exist, and where the Russians have been making better gains than in other places of the country.

16 posted on 03/04/2022 5:34:34 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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“Simply put, Russia is administering a thorough azzkickin’”

By Russia’s own admission they lost more soldiers in the first days than we did in two invasions of Iraq and one of Afghanistan combined.

And those reported figures are probably a quarter of the real one.


17 posted on 03/04/2022 5:34:36 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: Nifster
He thought he could steam roll over weak sloths.

Good post. I'm surprised at the number of trolls that have infested FR who appear to cheer "The Misadventures Of Putin."

But, you're right. Putin has a "Soviet Union" mindset in a 21st century age. It's like me when I work out with weights like I did 20 years ago, viz. I don't get very far.

Sadly though, he still has the ability to inflict a tremendous amount of suffering and destruction. I guess his personal bodyguards are loyal to him. For now.

18 posted on 03/04/2022 5:36:22 AM PST by LouAvul (The liberal's mantra: " I don't understand why this has to be so hard.")
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To: no-to-illegals
Or could be a ruse

Arrr arrr, I see what you did there.

I think it's simply a case of the russians not knowing what the hell they're doing.

19 posted on 03/04/2022 5:37:52 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

I do not see this as a ‘military’ action.
I do not see this as a ‘political’ reprisal.
This is purely a ‘tribal’ action.
For a length of history, the Ukraine belonged to Russia.
It was theirs to do with, both people and realty.
It was the tsar who seized the farmlands held by Jews in that land.
So now, a land of ‘freedom’ or not,Putin, in his desiring a legacy, is acting like an amoeba, absorbing Ukraine back under Russian rule and ownership.


20 posted on 03/04/2022 5:40:29 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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