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Buildings at Europe's biggest nuclear power plant are ON FIRE after being attacked by Russian tanks fire sparking fears of radiation disaster: Livestreamed footage shows explosions as heavy weapons target the facility in southern Ukraine
UK Daily Mail ^ | 03/03/2022 | Kaya Terry

Posted on 03/03/2022 4:28:03 PM PST by DFG

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To: Zuriel

The fire ant colony KILLS if it gets the chance. Relative threat assessment.


301 posted on 03/04/2022 9:48:03 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: agere_contra
The point is that shelling the reactor was the next step in Putin's ratcheting up his nuclear rhetoric the past 10 days. He's saying "See, I'm willing to blanket the entire European continent with radioactive fallout in order to win." He just does it in such a way that he can deny he said it explicitly. I lived in Russia 15 years. I know how Russians think. This is an amoral Russian oligarch saying "I just did it but you're too cowardly to admit it even to yourself so you're not a serious person."

There's no question that Putin just implicitly and intentionally took this nuclear. He's made an unmistakeable gesture toward pushing the button.

We have to respond in kind lest he conclude we're really "not serious people" which will mean an immediate escalation of the war.

A serious man's response to this would be attacking that stalled convoy with NATO planes and if that doesn't work then sinking the entire Russian Navy.

Putin just took this thing nuclear. We must respond or we lose everything.

302 posted on 03/04/2022 9:59:26 AM PST by Thilly Thailor
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To: Thilly Thailor

Your comments are absurd.

You are waving the word “nuclear” around like waving a red cape at a bull.

It is embarrassing.


303 posted on 03/04/2022 10:00:35 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg
Putin intentionally shelled an operational nuclear power plant. Do you really not see the import of his message here?

If we respond with fear we're done.

You seem to want us not to respond to Putin's shelling the largest nuke plant in Europe. It seems to me that you're searching for some ego-saving way out - like the plant wasn't operational (never mind the large amount of dirty bomb materials stored there). The psychopathic mind of Vladimir Putin wants you to do violence to yourself - by lying to yourself - in order to avoid confronting the full import of his actions.

We must respond now.

Not that I think we will - all of our leaders are playing the same game of denial that you are.

304 posted on 03/04/2022 10:07:49 AM PST by Thilly Thailor
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To: Thilly Thailor

You are in panic mode.

Step away from the keyboard and commune with nature for a while.


305 posted on 03/04/2022 10:12:55 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Chode

Once kgb/fsu always kgb/fsu...


306 posted on 03/04/2022 10:48:02 AM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Even more strange to me is...

(1) Soros is taking side with Ukraine
(2) Every DUmmy is taking side with Ukraine
(3) Every democrat is taking side with Ukraine.
(4) Every Neocon politician is taking side with Ukraine.
(5) Hillary kept accusing Trump of being a Russian agent.

That is enough for me to side with Russia, even if I really have not studied the history of conflict between these 2 countries.

So why are so many FReepers siding with Ukraine? Have they studied the history of the region?


307 posted on 03/04/2022 11:20:20 AM PST by entropy12
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To: little jeremiah

Daily News is 💯 propaganda

(Except the stuff about the kardashians is true)


308 posted on 03/04/2022 11:22:57 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: usconservative

“Don’t be surprised if the Oligarch’s make that happen soon, for the mess Putin’s created.”

From your lips to God’s ears.


309 posted on 03/04/2022 11:36:10 AM PST by Veto! (Political Correctness offends me)
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To: entropy12

So here is another one that will be on the side of Mexico when they finally decide they have enough here to take over.

Can’t figure out why it is ok with some people for one country yo invade another. I suppose their history began the day they were born.


310 posted on 03/04/2022 11:37:36 AM PST by JayAr36 (Just watching the demise of America.)
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To: Paul R.

True, but a child can spot a fire ant colony, and make things a bit miserable momentarily with a garden hose.

My grandkids like to kick the top of the mound open and pour water down the holes. They don’t know that I use starting fluid ether, then lay dirt back on top the hole to seal it in. If it doesn’t get the entire colony, it is at least a major setback.


311 posted on 03/04/2022 11:45:49 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: entropy12
So why are so many FReepers siding with Ukraine?

Ukraine is a Sovereign country.

Putin/Russia invaded a Sovereign country.

If you back the invasion of Sovereign countries and NATO continues to appear weak, you cannot be surprised when more countries are invaded.

As for me, I'm fundamentally opposed to the invasion of Sovereign countries when it's clear they don't pose a threat to the country invading them. Nothing more than that and nothing less.

Go ahead and ask me my opinions on Iraq and Afghanistan and the US Invasions of those countries. You'll find me to be remarkably consistent.

312 posted on 03/04/2022 11:48:14 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Pearls Before Swine

My guess without reading about it, is that the plant was scrammed in advance and is in a quiescent state not generating power or in danger of a runaway reaction.

And I don’t know about the strength of a reactor container from an outside hit, but I will bet pretty strong.

I am not as concerned as some, but it doesn’t mean bad things can’t happen. Hell, if they are like us, they probably have spent fuel laying all around outside the facility.

I guess I will go read the article and see how off base I am.


313 posted on 03/04/2022 11:50:49 AM PST by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: usconservative

“Ukraine is a sovereign country.”

Well, sorta, kinda....

But—they agreed to be a warehouse for piles of NATO weapons...

So...

When you poke a bear with a stick, it is a little too clever to play innocent after it attacks you.


314 posted on 03/04/2022 11:51:33 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: cgbg
But—they agreed to be a warehouse for piles of NATO weapons...

Since when does having NATO weapons revoke one's sovereignty?

AFAIC, the dumbest thing Ukraine did was give up their nuclear weapons.

315 posted on 03/04/2022 11:54:46 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

“when does having NATO weapons revoke one’s sovereignty?”

It is just a risk factor—ya know, like the sovereign nation of Cuba accepting Soviet arms in 1959....

Then, stuff happens—and nobody should be surprised if there is a Bay of Pigs.


316 posted on 03/04/2022 11:59:07 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Thilly Thailor

I cannot believe, even in Ukraine, with hostile armed troops advancing, that the plant would not be scrammed while it was still safe to do so.

I cannot believe they would be so idiotic as to have the control rods out of the cores and generating power as armed troops approached, even it it meant cutting off power to large populated areas.

Even they couldn’t be stupid enough to keep those things online as armed troops got within 20 miles.

You shut them down while you can.

Once you do that, and you have the rods inserted, there are two major worries: a direct hit that penetrates the containment vessel, or if you have fission byproducts hanging around, a hit on one of those turning an artillery shell into a dirty bomb.


317 posted on 03/04/2022 12:04:31 PM PST by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: cgbg
It is just a risk factor—ya know, like the sovereign nation of Cuba accepting Soviet arms in 1959....

You're seriously trying to connect what's happening in Ukraine today to Cuba in 1959?

Wow, that's desperate.

318 posted on 03/04/2022 12:06:32 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

The similarities are very real—but it requires historical perspective—very difficult—might hurt your brain...


319 posted on 03/04/2022 12:08:58 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: usconservative

So why did Bush invade Iraq (a SOVERIGN country)
Why did US invade Vietnam?
Why did US invade Afghanistan?
Govt of Afghan did not send pilots to send in tall buildings.

Do you know history of Ukraine & Russia going back 300 years?


320 posted on 03/04/2022 12:21:00 PM PST by entropy12
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