Posted on 02/25/2022 1:03:42 PM PST by Covenantor
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg on Friday said that Russian President Vladimir Putin has threatened the alliance by telling it to withdraw forces from member nations or face consequences.
This goes far beyond Ukraine," Stoltenberg warned. "This is about how Russia is actually challenging, contesting core values for our security. Then warning that NATO should withdraw all forces and infrastructure from almost half of our members.
"They said that if we don't do that, if we don't meet their demands, there will be what they call ‘military-technical consequences,'" he added.
The leader of the 30-member alliance said that in response to these threats NATO has for the first time deployed its Response Force for collective security.
Stoltenberg said the U.S., U.K., France and Germany are among the NATO nations to have deployed forces and lead elements to assist the Response Force.
"We have to take this seriously," he said....
(more at link....posting from droid with lousy connection)
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
follow up from Fox News 2-24-2022
FORT HOOD, Texas — Fort hood released a statement from the III Armored Corps stating:
“We routinely conduct readiness activities to ensure we are prepared to deploy, if ordered to do so. No deployment order has been given,” Col. Wayne Marotto said, the III Armored Corps Director of Public Affairs & Spokesman.
“The training and readiness activities we are conducting are precautionary actions to provide our national command authority with a variety of options should additional forces be needed in Europe to assure our NATO and European allies and deter Russian aggression.”
This comes after Russia invaded Ukraine last night into the early morning.
Fort Hood does have units currently in other European countries. One in the black sea region has been practicing air assault missions to assist ground units and plan for medical evacuation if needed.
“So this exercise is important because it validates our systems, our equipment, and allows us to rapidly deploy anywhere within the European theater and ensures our allies and deters any potential threats coming from the outside,” 1 Lieutenant Bill Reeter said, the S4 officer in charge of the 3rd Battalion of the 227 Aviation Regiment in the Black Sea region.
Other US units in Germany are practicing medivac extractions with air support and U.S. troops in the Black Sea region are also using these exercises for mechanical support.
“As well as setting up a FARP, which is a forward arming refueling point that extends our ability to conduct missions further out from our base,” Reeter said,
Fort Hood is also still holding live fire exercises on post and will continue to train here, at the National Training Center in California, and overseas to be ready in case they are needed
How many minutes does it take a Rooskie ICBM to reach us? Twenty minutes?
Yep
This might work if it was PDJT on that red phone. Maybe even you or me.
Biden?
We are so screwed.
I’d have to hunt to find the links - saw some stuff B4 all this broke that Finland was (paraphrasal) “re-evaluating the security situation” and moving closer to requesting NATO membership.
I’m guessing they know the Russians VERY well...
“ Putin has had visions of reuniting the USSR since the downfall.”
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Nope, he didn’t particularly like or agree with the Communists (though like many, he joined the Party and got a good job working for them because it was literally the only game in town). He is, though, a Russian nationalist - so reassembling the pre-WW1 Russian Empire’s lands is probably more likely.
FYI, my paternal grandfather was born in what is now the city of Dnipro in Ukraine, around 1900. Never once did he ever refer to himself or his family as Ukrainian (and we’re Jewish, so he had little love for Russians). There essentially was no separate Ukrainian identity 100+ years ago…and that’s where Putin is going.
Or Washington, D.C.
Please explain to me why the Ukraine is of vital importance to the USA. tia
Since they have more missiles than us and have (they claim) hypersonic ones, I don’t think they’ll sweat too much.
If one dies, we all die...is their thinking.
They don’t fear death as much as us.
Or at least me :)
I did some reading on hypersonic missiles and though it hinted that we don’t have any that are fully operational already, I find it very hard to believe Russia has something up and running that we don’t
good post.
makes sense
unless everyone decides that if they’re losing they’ll go nuke
Russia and China and Israel have already said if they lose the war, they go nuke.
I only throw in Israel because as tough as they are, the possibility of them getting overrun is there...though they have made treaties with some enemies lately..hopefully they will not be enemies anymore but allies...against Iran
I really think that the Afghan withdrawal disaster, led by Biden, payed a huge role in Putin being this aggressive. Putin is a evil man, but a very smart and saw his chance.
I doubt it.
With the caveat that the self-absorbed, PC-addled, cowardly Eurotrash are pathetic and unreliable, I’m getting the clear sense watching Russia’s military in action that modern western weapons would cut through the Russian forces like a hot knife through butter if it came to that. I don’t think Russia’s conventional forces are up to the task. Watching the difficulty that the Ukrainians are giving them, I can’t even imagine how Russia could withstand attack by waves of top-tier western fighters, bombers, naval forces, and ground troops.
To fully appreciate what I’m saying here, you have to know just how incredibly advanced our newest weapons systems are, and how integrated the battle management systems are in gathering and disseminating information in real time. For example, some seem to have made it a hobby to hate the F-35, but that thing, deployed in the numbers that are planned and armed with weapons like Stormbreaker bombs, will single-handedly devastate ANY anti-air systems out there, including Russia’s S-400.
Russia’s only advantage is if they go nuclear, and if that happens then all bets are off, but in a conventional war I am more convinced than ever that they can’t match up to the U.S. or to a sufficiently large group of western allies.
“ In every war game between NATO and the old USSR from 1950 onward...the loser of a major battle...loser of the war...resorts to nukes and the world burns.
Every time.
War with Russia should be avoided if at all possible.”
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This.
I have serious doubts that we could beat the Russian Army so close to its logistical tail and so far from ours. Also, Russia won’t just sit with their thumbs up their rear ends watching us deliver and assemble an expeditionary force, like Iraq did, twice…they will attack from Day One, so we won’t be able to put the forces together.
Putin knows this, our generals know it, EVERYONE knows it, leading me to the view that Putin sensed a unique opportunity with the weak and inept “Big Guy,” and he took it rather than gradually reabsorbing Ukraine over the rest of his life and beyond. He is calculating and certainly not irrational, and he knows that with hundreds of billions in reserves, 2,300 tons of gold and lot of oil and gas on tap, Russia can easily withstand sanctions from Slow Joe. This is a move calculated move to grab a lot of land and resources back.
But for sure we don’t need to tangle with them and their 4,000 nukes.
That might mean cutting off (with help from Iran) fossil fuel exports to some nations. Or maybe he will not do anything but threaten, since that costs nothing.
You won’t beat Russia on their own turf. But when the Russians are on other peoples’ turf, different story.
They still lost 100,000 just taking Berlin, and that’s when the Nazis were down to young boys and old men fighting.
Not as evil as BIDEN and corrupt liars of hese kind in US and YUROP .....
Interested to know at what point EPSTEIN’s process is arrived if it only started !
YOU and i ( in Europe ) are leaving in a cesspool . Don’t fool yourself
You are correct, they are both evil. However, Putin is actually smart and competent and able to make tactical decisions quickly, unlike Biden and “my sanctions will stop Putin” to 36ish hours later “uh, they were never meant to stop Putin.”
Biden is totally irrelevant now.
Although Putin probably surrounded himself with “yes” men similar to Hitler and Saddam. That’s a problem in war when your officers are not telling you the truth. The Russians will probably take Kyiv. But the question is will they get away with installing a puppet government? Ukrainians will become guerillas by then.
Seeing Putin yesterday puffing up and making bold statements, but his cheeks were red, indicating anxiety and his eyes were dead...perhaps he realizes what I thought two days ago:
PUTIN MADE A BIG MISTAKE.
We’ll see how it plays out now.
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