Posted on 02/19/2022 7:48:32 AM PST by fireman15
We may never know if an EV started the fire, but even if the EVs didn’t start the fire, they are certainly making it a lot more difficult to extinguish the fire. EV battery fires are chemically comparable to thermite fires, hot enough to melt steel, so there may not be much left to analyse by the time the ship fire finally burns itself out.
This disaster could have real consequences for the EV market, both transporting EVs by sea or land, and consumer desire for a product which is potentially such a severe fire hazard. I would not be surprised if in the future, once insurers understand the hazard, owning an EV could make your home uninsurable, unless you can prove it is parked well away from your house.
At the very least insurers may start demanding strict end of use dates on the batteries. The hazard likely grows as the battery ages, though if the Felicity Ace fire was started by a new battery, you can never say the hazard is zero.
The following video demonstrates how ferocious EV fires can be in a home environment – and this fire is just an electric scooter. Automobile batteries are far larger. How much would be left of your house, how much time would you have to get to safety, if an electric automobile caught fire in a built in garage or car port? EV fires are not constrained by lack of oxygen. The battery itself contains everything necessary to initiate and sustain a deadly, white hot fire which is almost impossible to extinguish.
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I was stationed at Lajes Field, Terceira, Azores in the early 70s. It Really sucked. You could drive around the whole island in under an hour. Seemed like everywhere you needed to go on the airfield installation was uphill....
On average it can take 7 to 8 hours and 40,000 gallons of water to extinguish a single EV car fire.
Hoverboard on wheels
Sea Trials for EVs seem productive.
Most EVs are selling in areas with droughts. Where they gonna get the 40,000 gallons of water?
Once the Felicity Ace sinks, the Atlantic will quickly extinguish the fires.
The ship captain said the fire started in a car storage area. That wouldn’t be a galley or ship engine fire.
Maybe Uncle Sugar can provide a tax credit to help pay for fire insurance.
Water will only make burning metal fires worse. Burning metal can break water down into its components and one is flammable and the other an oxidizer, joy, joy.
No, it was caused by an awful internet video.
About 2:00 in the morning my crew and were first in on a gasoline tanker fire that was parked next to a large multi-story motel. It looked impressive but fortunately it was parked 40 feet from the structure and just the cab was on fire which was impinging on the tank. The truck driver was running around screaming and causing pandemonium. As we approached, he was yelling at us that it was “going to blow”. A minute or two later we had it under control with extinguishers and a couple hundred gallons of water. Tankers are designed not to blow up if the truck towing them catches on fire. I canceled all the other units and requested an inspector. When he arrived, we returned to the station and got back to sleep.
Electric cars on the other hand will put you out of service for hours. Once the batteries start burning, they are a very stubborn problem. The EV freaks here will show up on this thread soon and start telling us all how much safer they are than normal vehicles and providing statistics that supposedly prove their point. But I doubt whether many have any firsthand experience and these days statistical info is all manipulated to make whatever point is wanted. Personally, I would rather go to a tanker fire.
Their whole premise is that the problem can be solved, it only takes money. That can be printed by decree.
The green movement and globull warming are about control and crisis.
Alexander Tytler:
From Bondage to Moral Certitude;
from Moral Certitude to Great Courage;
from Great Courage to Liberty;
from Liberty to Abundance;
from Abundance to Selfishness;
from Selfishness to Complacency;
from Complacency to Apathy;
from Apathy to Dependency;
from Dependency to Bondage.
Thomas Jefferson:
When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
We have arrived at tyranny. If you are not convinced, January 6, now Canada. Next comes subjugation if the isnd the WEF are not stopped.
I have at least one car that I would gladly park next to an EV.
I guess the middle of the ocean is the safest place to keep EVs.
If true, it’ll beg questions if you can safely ship 3,000 cars aboard a ship across the Atlantic/Pacific...with the E-cars. I’d expect insurance to bump up a notch or two over this.
According to the VW brands fan sites, there were only about 2500 vehicles aboard rather than its nearly 4000 capacity. Maybe the shipper is already spacing out the vehicles due to larger numbers of EVs.
Undoubtedly closer attention will be paid by insurers.
never know???
well, the crew KNEW where the fire started, so maybe a simple list of what kind of cars were parked in said area... yes?
My guess is that the cars are eventually going to have to be shipped without their batteries installed. This will make it more difficult to get them on and off the ships and creates a PR problem. Do you really want to park a car that is too dangerous to ship with its battery installed... in your garage charging while you sleep?
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