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Pence says 'Trump is wrong' to say then-vice president had the right to overturn 2020 election
CNN ^ | February 4, 2022 | Steve Contorno and Eric Bradner

Posted on 02/04/2022 2:49:14 PM PST by McGruff

Former Vice President Mike Pence called out his former boss by name on Friday, saying that "President (Donald) Trump is wrong" in claiming that Pence had the right to overturn the 2020 election on January 6, 2021.

Speaking at the Federalist Society Florida Chapters conference near Orlando, Pence delivered his strongest response yet to Trump's ongoing efforts to relitigate the 2020 presidential election, calling it "un-American" to suggest one person could have decided the outcome.

Pence warned against conservatives who continue to insist the vice president can alter an election, and said it could be a problematic position for Republicans in the next presidential contest.

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To: Williams

That’s why it’s now vital to pay attention to all state and local elections, down to dogcatcher, and elect real representatives.


161 posted on 02/04/2022 5:46:37 PM PST by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: DouglasKC

Pence... at the very least recuse himself from his role and let the Democrats own it. By doing it he put an air of legitimacy on it.

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Excellent. He did TRY to lend an air of legitimacy to the fraud! That’s the effect of what he did. Dirty rotten Benedict Arnold.


162 posted on 02/04/2022 5:55:44 PM PST by poconopundit (Hard oak fist in an Irish velvet glove: Kayleigh the Shillelagh we salute your work!)
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To: vivenne

It’s not speculation. In over a year since the election all we’ve seen from the republican legislatures were some half hearted investigations. They had absolutely NO stomach to send alternate electors. It’s pure fantasy to think otherwise.


163 posted on 02/04/2022 5:56:43 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Torahman
They own him now.

Well they are welcome to have him for what it's worth since he is not welcomed here.

164 posted on 02/04/2022 5:59:26 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: FreeReign
"A state's governor needs to sign off on a slate of electors or an alternate slate of electors as specified in the US Constitution? Can you cite that?"

3 U.S.C. §6.

"PITTSBURGH (KDKA/AP) – "Gov. Tom Wolf has signed a certificate of ascertainment to show the slate of electors for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris after Pennsylvania certified its election results Tuesday.

Gov. Wolf announced the Pennsylvania Department of State certified the Nov. 3 election results for president and vice president.

He says as required by federal law, he signed a certificate of ascertainment, which is sent to the national archivist. Four years ago, Gov. Wolf made that notification Dec. 12."


165 posted on 02/04/2022 6:02:44 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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To: DoodleDawg

According to Steve Bannon’s War Room, the President of the Pennsylvania Senate wanted to review the Pennsylvania election results before Biden was installed in January, 2021.


166 posted on 02/04/2022 6:04:48 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Ivermectin should be available for sale over the counter in the United States of America)
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To: Bratch

Thank you for this wonderful and disturbing intelligence brief on the traitor Pence and his crew of cut throats pirates.


167 posted on 02/04/2022 6:11:17 PM PST by poconopundit (Hard oak fist in an Irish velvet glove: Kayleigh the Shillelagh we salute your work!)
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To: taxcontrol

They’re trying to do that now.


168 posted on 02/04/2022 6:15:26 PM PST by Coronal
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To: Williams

Again, what they may do in the future would be speculation at the time of the election.


169 posted on 02/04/2022 6:18:12 PM PST by vivenne (")
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To: All

It was so obvious that the election was stolen, Pence should have refused to certify and held a press conference to explain his reasons.

Who knows what would have happened next, but it would have improved the chances of overturning the fraudulent results through legal challenges that were subsequently ignored.

I don’t have enough knowledge of the laws regarding the transfer of power to speculate on what might have taken place in January 2021 if Pence had done the duty that the Constitution laid on him, and his conscience should have backed.


170 posted on 02/04/2022 6:20:04 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (a cloud has fallen over the lands of the free )
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To: PATed

Harris does have an obligation to review the results. If there are in fact problems (even if Trump wins) to not certify the election until those issues have been satisfactorily resolved. She cannot arbitrarily withold the certification because her preferred candidate (at that time likely herself) didn’t win.

The issues in the past election were multiple, and egregious. Such as the crap in Fulton County Georgia, the crap in Wayne County Michigan, and the myriad of other glaring irregularities.

The job of the VP is not to be a rubber stamp but an actual gatekeeper of election integrity.

Pence failed, miserably. He needed to have some integrity, and delay the certification until such time as the results could be verified accurate. If he had made it known, that any chicanery was grounds to reject the electors of Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona thins may have turned out differently. To proceed to the certification of the EC vote count without those electors the result would have been 243 Biden to 232 Trump, a net of no change in the results.

The consequences for running a crappy election should be your EC votes are not accepted. What happened in those four states was a criminal act, and those results should not have been accepted.


171 posted on 02/04/2022 6:36:23 PM PST by Ouderkirk (The democRATS are not looking to govern, they intend to RULE.)
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To: StAnDeliver
A state's governor needs to sign off on a slate of electors or an alternate slate of electors as specified in the US Constitution? Can you cite that?

3 U.S.C. §6.

You didn't cite the US Constitution, A "governor" requirement is not in there.

And the federal law that you cited mentions only that a certificate of ascertainment is required. There's no mention of a governor. And even if it did, it would be unconstitutional, because it's the state legislatures that have the final say about certification and any delegation of certification.

172 posted on 02/04/2022 7:29:02 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: vivenne

I know what you mean. There was a time I actually believed Mike Pence was who he claimed to be. Now my eyes have been opened and the very thought of the man turns my blood cold. I dont believe he stands a chance at 2024, and that is a good thing for our country.


173 posted on 02/04/2022 8:44:12 PM PST by navymom1
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To: Freee-dame

Spot On. Qui Bono?


174 posted on 02/04/2022 9:20:18 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Fury
There were several states that put up alternate slates of electors.

No, that is not correct.

Actually it is correct. Republican electors in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico cast alternative slates of votes for President Donald Trump on Dec. 14, as the certified Democrat electors in the same states cast votes for former Vice President Joe Biden.

https://noqreport.com/2020/12/16/electors-in-7-states-cast-dueling-votes-for-trump/

This has happened in the past also. Although it would have been highly controversial for Pence to choose between dueling electors, it would have been constitutionally correct for him to return the issue to the states to resolve before certification by congress.

175 posted on 02/04/2022 9:30:30 PM PST by CMAC51
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To: CMAC51

I agree with what you wrote. That is what I recall happened. Thanks for posting.


176 posted on 02/05/2022 12:04:36 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: Cboldt

I’m not the final judge here, but I’d reckon to guess that Pence is a far more authentic Christian than his former boss, in terms of demonstrated personal Christian walk, personal witness, knowledge and application of Bible, private life past and present, when compared to his former boss. It isn’t even a contest-that’s mileage I get. Just look at boring, squeaky clean Christian Indiana with “Mother””, and/vs these wild parties I see down at Mar-a-Lago, skimpy women, etc. c’mon man


177 posted on 02/05/2022 12:46:58 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Stay true to objective, core principles not leaders or any one sole leader )
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To: vivenne

There’s not a lot out there.


178 posted on 02/05/2022 12:48:48 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Stay true to objective, core principles not leaders or any one sole leader )
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Oh, good grief.


179 posted on 02/05/2022 1:22:39 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

No, there isn’t if your standard is Jesus.


180 posted on 02/05/2022 1:24:19 AM PST by vivenne (")
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