Posted on 02/01/2022 10:14:07 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Specifically, in today's episode we note that people from San Francisco are flocking to Montana, which has seen a 140% increase from Fog City when comparing total moves from 2018-2019 and 2020-2021, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
"I have a vacation rental [in Bozeman]," said Bozeman real estate broker Cancis Dorsch, who's spent years selling vacation homes to Bay Area residents and says that demand from the Bay Area has 'exploded.'
"It became slam-booked for the entire summer. Buyers were making phone calls, buyers were buying properties, sight unseen, to get out of the Bay Area. It really happened in the very beginning, and never really stopped."
During the same time period as above, overall moves from the Bay Area to Montana increased by 51% according to data on migration patterns produced by the California Policy Lab based out of the University of California.
The data tracks movements of all Californian adults with active credit information. In order to analyze moves over the same time periods, we looked at data from the first seven quarters of 2020-2021 and compared them to the same period in 2018-2019. -SF Chronicle
That said, while the percentage increase from SF to Montana may have jumped - in terms of raw numbers, there were only 360 total moves from San Francisco to Montana in 2020 and the first three quarters of 2021. Still, "while San Francisco saw the biggest pandemic-era percent increase to Montana, all 10 of California’s most populous counties saw move-outs to the state increase significantly," according to the report, which notes that based on the 32 counties with enough data to track movements, at least 13,000 Californians moved to Montana over the last two years.
Fewer people moving to California
During the pandemic, the rate of people migrating out of the Golden State accelerated - contributing to a decade-long trend of out-migration, according to California Policy Lab Executive Director, Evan White.
"There’s been a slow decline in net entrances for a long time," he said, adding "What appears to have happened in the pandemic was the slope of the line changed."
This statewide trend is driven largely by a decrease in moves into California, not moves out of it. Moves into California decreased by about 35% between the pre-pandemic period we looked at and the pandemic period, while moves out increased by only about 7% during that same period. -SF Chronicle
According to the report, San Francisco, San Mateo and Santa Clara saw the biggest net move-outs as a percentage of the population during the pandemic.
Of course, the state which takes the cake when it comes to ex-Californians in general is Texas, one of nine states which doesn't have an individual income tax.
Will it be enough to eventually turn these red states blue?
I can’t think of a less bicycle-friendly city than SF.
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If Californians move to your state, you should treat them with absolute contempt, scorn and hatred. Make life so miserable for them that they will flee voluntarily.
Here in the redoubt it’s going to be -14 degrees. Let’s see if those putzes can last a winter.
I watch a farm video and the lady that lives on the farm says it is always windy in Montana. Like 20mph and above.
How many of those that moved from warm California to Montana will move again after a few winters in Montana to someplace warm?
Montana is a beautiful state even with the snow coverage they get. Friend bought a ranch out there and absolutely loves it....and the people he meets.
This is a damn shame. Montana was such a nice state. Now, it’s America’s septic tank as Cauliphonians try to get away from all the illegals they let in.
I grew up in Montana and predict that a lot of those moving to Montana will leave when they discover that about every 3 years Montana has winters that have temps that stay -20 degrees for 2-3 months and snow that needs to be removed every 2-3 hours and a wind chill that goes to -40.
Great.
More movement by liberal parasites to a fresh, new host.
Just like they “didn’t” change OR, WA, CO, NV, NM and AZ?
There’s one thing that ties together Idaho, Montana, West Virginia, Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont (preferred destinations of the exodus) - all the comments about red and blue are missing the point.
Yeah Montana ain’t California soft.
And school boards.
I wonder where their wintering at. I suspect two or three winners and most of the moving somewhere else.
“…only 360 total moves from San Francisco to Montana in 2020 and the first three quarters of 2021.”
Not many people in total.
Don't be too sure of that. Democrats in general are a very arrogant bunch. Hypocrisy runs deep in their psyche. They crapped in their own nest and made it unlivable. You'd have thought they would have learned their lesson but no; they now want to come crap in your next. They view it as their duty to "culturally enrich" us backwards types. This time, so the thinking goes, they will get it right and efficiently and humanely manage their socialist pipedreams. And yes, I know that's bullshite but that is how they think.
Don't for a minute think some Boomer or older Gen X type who has voted liberal their entire life will suddenly see the light.
Best post yet. I’m looking for the dental floss ranch myself.
I loved that song in college. Later, Frank Zappa became a semi-regular on Commie News Networks Crossfire where he would defend the dimocRAT’s attack on 1st Amendment with his Libertarian point of view. He could debate with the best of the era.
His wife Gail, really screwed the pooch after Zappa’s death by becoming one of the biggest donors to the California and National dimocRAT party. I’m sure Frank spun in his grave after that.
Like a cancer, the appropriately (though likely accidentally) named “progressive” movement continues to metasticize into, in this instance, the healthy tissue of Montana. The cure is to stop the spread of this “progressive” disease.
My claim is that the US Senators in Colorado, Nevada, and Arizona are really just California senators by invasion.
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