The speed camera nightmare that's coming to America: How the UK's hated war on motorists provides a chilling glimpse of what's in store under Pete Buttigieg's plan

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[algore]

US Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg's plan to 'promote speed safety cameras' is raising the troubling specter of ubiquitous automated traffic enforcement in the style of the UK, where the cameras are widely despised.

Buttigieg's 42-page plan road safety plan unveiled on Thursday and backed by $14 billion in funding from the new infrastructure bill, contained only brief mention of the speed camera plan, but it was enough to set alarm bells ringing for worried motorists.

Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson slammed the plan as a misuse of the funds in the $1.2 trillion Infrastructure Bill, fuming that 'you're about to get a lot more speeding tickets from robots.'

'When the country applauded $1.2 trillion going to fixing the roads, bridges and buildings, a lot of us were dumb enough to think that's what might actually happen,' he said.

Speed cameras have also drawn sharp criticism from some on the left, who are angry that the fines are often directed to fund police departments, making the issue rare grounds for bipartisan agreement.

Currently, eight US states have laws specifically prohibiting speed cameras. Only 18 states plus DC have speed cameras in use by law, with the other states having no law on the books authorizing their use. Buttigieg's strategy recommends pilot programs to study and promote greater use of speed cameras

Buttigieg said new federal data being released next week will show another increase in traffic fatalities through the third quarter of 2021.

Those numbers are expected to point to a sizable increase in deaths compared with the same period in 2020, adding to a half-year traffic death total of 20,160 that already was the highest half-year figure since 2006.

'It doesn´t look good, and I continue to be extremely concerned about the trend,' Buttigieg told the AP in an interview.

[vetvetdoug]

Mississippi booted the speed cameras on Constitutional Law. The tickets are mailed to the driver without a court date where one can face the accuser in a court of law.

[CFW]

“Our town only has one traffic light, but a small city a few miles down the road has set the traffic lights so that they wait a couple of seconds before the lights turn green, after the cross traffic lights have turned red. It does help avoid getting t-boned by some guy running a red light.”
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I’m in the same situation. My entire county only has one traffic light. However, the county 10 miles away has the red-light cameras and all the lights are set to catch you going through the intersection on red.

[old curmudgeon]

Drive 12 -15 thousand miles a year

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I am retired. Have been for 20 years and I drive almost three times that.

Back in the days when we had to change oil and grease every 1,000 miles, I had a standing deal withe the neighborhood filling station to change the oil and wash and service my car every Saturday. Even so, I would run over the target mileage.

I can tell from some of the comments that there are people on this thread that have high mileage behind them.

The big truck drivers who run long routes will hit well over 100,000 every year.

They could teach all of us a lot and the people who design interstates and decide where to put route signs should get them to design the intersections.

But none of this addresses the point, which is: Cameras are not going to be put on the highways to help you or to make it more safe for you.

The government has only two goals: #1 is to make you do something you do not want to do. That is why they have guns and jails.

#2 Enrich their families and a few friends. Hunter Biden wand Pelosi will be big stockholders in camera companies, or maybe just lucky beneficiaries of their generosity, like Hillary.

That is the bottom line. But along the way, it will turn out like the Patriot Act, the FBI, the TSA, the Department of Homeland Security and all the rest.

[FreedomPoster]

GA is only in school zones, the last I looked.

[metmom]

States prohibiting speed cameras….

https://www.ncsl.org/research/transportation/automated-enforcement-overview.aspx

“ Maine, Mississippi, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Texas and West Virginia prohibit both red-light and speed cameras. Montana and South Dakota prohibit red-light cameras, and New Jersey and Wisconsin do not allow speed cameras. Nevada prohibits the use of cameras unless operated by an officer or installed in a law enforcement vehicle or facility. The constitutionality of automated enforcement laws has been challenged in many jurisdictions. For example, Missouri’s Supreme Court ruled in 2015 that red-light and speed cameras were unconstitutional.”

[dfwgator]

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[Taxman]

I never have liked the incompetent, homosexual sonofabitch, and I never will! He is a pox on our house!

[2CAVTrooper]

That’s true.

Then factor in the fools on their cell phones, or the ones who race up on the right or left to cut you off, or pace you so you can not change lanes, etc.

[BobL]

“I think I liked him better when he was off nursing his baby.”

Agree, maybe he should give a bit more effort with his boobs. After all, as his HERO, Lea Thomas, insists, there is no difference between men and women.

[444Flyer]

Continuing the infrastructure for the surveillance grid for their “Great Reset” global digital slavery system.

They've done their beta testing in China for years.

“Inside China's Surveillance State”

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=inside+chinas+surveillance+state+nbc&docid=608001214220866593&mid=0365C1276D466F3CE8EA0365C1276D466F3CE8EA&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

[9YearLurker]

This isn’t about traffic laws IMO: this is about the rolling out the tech to limit and control movement.

[SoCal Pubbie]

No, it’s all because some guy is down with the surveillance state.

[freeandfreezing]

Just have never had a moving violation, a parking ticket or an accident.

Let me guess. You live in rural Montana and drive 5,000 miles per year, most of it on your own ranch.

[Myrddin]

San Diego installed "red light" cameras to raise revenue from people running red lights. The company that installed the system optimized the green->yellow->red timing to optimize revenue. The consequence was a huge number of collisions as drivers slammed on the brakes upon seeing the yellow. Many lawsuits were directed against the city and company that did the installation. Over time, many intersections were cleared of that menace.

I regularly see unhappy posts in the Welsh language Twitter feeds aimed at the speed cameras in the UK. More government overreach aimed a pissing off the populace.

[AFreeBird]

I got a ticket in the mail from Illinois. Camera caught me, apparently. Except the picture wasn’t me. I haven’t been in Illinois, driving, in decades.

And the picture had a front license plate. I live in Indiana, we don’t have front license plates.

I called and cleared it up. The guy I talked to said it happens a lot more than people know.

Major hassle having to deal with that bull crap bureaucracy.

[dragnet2]

Going slower than existing traffic on a divided 4 lane road is fine, just don’t travel in the #1, (left lane). Do not attempt to meter the flow of traffic by sitting in the #1 at or below the speed limit. Doing that causes lots of deaths and injuries as everyone struggles to speed up and pass those people by changing lanes to the right, or #2 lane.

Those who attempt to meter the flow of traffic, are just as bad as those using excessive speed for existing conditions. Not saying you do, I’m just sayin.

[Married with Children]

I bet your moral superiority is fun to be around.

[taxcontrol]

My POS wont break the speed limit unless I am driving through a school zone.

[qam1]

So, my car was caught speeding. Who was driving the car? I was at work and have an alibi that is air tight. who was speeding? Who would be liable for the speeding charge? My wife. my son, my daughter, my neighbor, my mother, my mother-in-law, or the person who stole the car?

The owner of the car is always liable. The ticket is for the car, not the driver.

The way they get around the Constitutionality of this, is A) when a ticket speeding or red light ticket is issued by a computer, they don't give you points on your license. B) They fall back on the old Driving is a Privilege, not a Right nonsense.

[chiller]

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