Posted on 01/09/2022 10:13:32 AM PST by rktman
Imagine: It is September 4, 2035, in Miami and a large Cat. 5 hurricane is offshore headed straight for the city.
Roughly 7 million persons are in the general area where the hurricane will come ashore in 24 hours. The governor orders an evacuation of the Miami–Fort Lauderdale area of Florida. All of the cars start heading north on I-95. All lanes are cleared to head northbound. With Congress and President Cortez having mandated that all cars built after 2030 must be electric (no hybrids), everyone heads north, but now all the people are caught up in a terrible traffic jam.
Electric cars are starting to stall out on I-95 as well as the A1A and the Turnpike as they run out of power. There are simply not enough charging stations to charge the cars, and police monitoring the available chargers are limiting drivers to 15 minutes. Chargers are shutting down as water shorts out the charging heads on the cars. The electric cars are turning off their air-conditioners to preserve their remaining charge.
You are stuck in a traffic jam all night with the storm headed right at you. No battery, no A/C, no windshield-wipers, no GPS. All that you can do is call 911 and hope for help, but they can't because all of the roads are blocked with stalled electric vehicles. The new electric police and EMT vehicles mandated by President Cortez soon are out of juice. The wind is increasing. Then Florida Power and Light turns off the grid as power lines come down.
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Do those Germans take dummy pills?
Yes, they do if you’ve been observing them.
You know damn well the end game is to use taxes on gas and ICE cars to bring about the dominance of EVs, and they'll call it "The Free Market". *spit*
And I’m still waiting to hear where and what cost I get my EV
4X4 crew cab long bed 3500 series style truck.
And how do we mine or import 900% more cobalt when we control none? How expensive will that be? Same for a 200% increase in Copper.
And that’s just to get EVs to 50% of vehicles on the road.
“Pretty sure you don’t know why, and why it matters. I work in manufacturing, ironically enough for a German compnay. Just took in a shipment of 50 tons of steel yesterday.”
What does that have to do with EV technology, mnaufacturing and new developments?
“And I’m still waiting to hear where and what cost I get my EV
4X4 crew cab long bed 3500 series style truck”
Not currently produced but when they are I will let you now the price.
Like I said, you don’t even know why that matters. Go buy your EV, I don’t give a shit if you’re not getting a tax subsidy. I hope you have as much fun with it as my boss does with his.
Well, then, what's your fucking point?
EV emergency pack: two (2) sticks, one (1) small bag each of marshmallows, chocolate and Graham crackers
“And the Chinese control 80% of the lithium needed to make the batteries. Are they just going to give it to Audi so they can make EVs?”
Toyota and other companies are going to a sold state battery thta is half in size and uses no or very little lithium and is right now 30% less cost to produce. SSB are also way less expensive and are very fast charging.
Toyota said all their 2025 cars will have SSB batteries.
No one is forcing people to buy them
Well, then, what’s your fucking point?
You said the EV’s are not free market driven. I pointed out that most EV companies are selling more than they can make and tye have huge preorders for future.
Show me where a car salesman is pointing a gun to people buying ev;s.
btw: cussing=you lost the argument.
No doubt there are plenty of Early Adopters out there who see them as nice toys, and right now, while the grid can handle it, why not?
Or GoreBull warming.
I asked why you're pushing them here. If you can go buy one, go for it. Make your own choice. "Technological advancements" can't rewrite the laws of physics. Try driving one around the deep south in the summer. Or in MN during the winter.
As I said (twice) by not acknowledging that there is still, and always will be, a need for IC vehicles, you've proven you're not arguing in good faith.
As for cussing, are you a froot?
I was corrected in the thread. Apparently we will be dead by global warming in 2031 according to the polymath AOC.
I laugh at the FReepers who think the US is a Thomas Sowell textbook.
We aren’t even remotely close to a free market economy.
I noticed the same lies regarding anti-EV posts. ICE cars keep their engines running when caught in a traffic jam, and waste all their gas doing so. But EVs don't use power in a traffic jam, unless moving, and at a slow pace will barely use their energy meaning they'll get farther than their ICE counterparts. And people can get by without running A/C, it was non-existent on most cars when I was younger.
There is a lot of false hyperbole thrown around by people, akin to what the democrats do - the lies just make the teller look stupid.
As for cussing, are you a froot?
What is a froot???????????????
I agree with the point about the government pushing them.
That’s wrong. As for subsidies, I’m on the fence. I bought
a used one. Nobody helped me finance it.
As I recall, in the 2008/09 time frame, a number of ICE
manufacturers got government money to keep them afloat.
Please keep in mind that the subsidies were allowable for
a certain number of vehicles from each company. Those are
slowly dying off.
Within three months, I’ll be charging my car fully by solar.
Unless I’m on a trip, I won’t be spending money on energy
any longer. More costly to operate? Even now as I charge
my vehicle at EV charge centers, I’m paying roughly half
what I did for energy to get me from here to there. As for
maintenance, there is hardly any.
As for dirty? Lithium is being mined. So is coal and
other things that aren’t all that clean. Gas isn’t clean.
I don’t go trashing coal and gasoline, but I think it’s
more than a little off base to go after contents of the
batteries in these cars.
Each of have phones and other devices that use lithium
batteries in them. Should we toss all those ‘dirty’
things out too?
What’s a shill? Oh, you.
I believe the figure is more like 1/4th will be EV. Not because of more cars made, but because of gov't mandates that cause the decline of ICE vehicles. Gov't doesn't want people to have private ownership of cars, and wants to get private cars off the roads. They're starting the reductions on ICE cars, and then will go after EVs.
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