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Foreseeable electric car catastrophes
Americanthinker.com ^ | 1/8/2022 | Michael Abel

Posted on 01/09/2022 10:13:32 AM PST by rktman

Imagine: It is September 4, 2035, in Miami and a large Cat. 5 hurricane is offshore headed straight for the city.

Roughly 7 million persons are in the general area where the hurricane will come ashore in 24 hours. The governor orders an evacuation of the Miami–Fort Lauderdale area of Florida. All of the cars start heading north on I-95. All lanes are cleared to head northbound. With Congress and President Cortez having mandated that all cars built after 2030 must be electric (no hybrids), everyone heads north, but now all the people are caught up in a terrible traffic jam.

Electric cars are starting to stall out on I-95 as well as the A1A and the Turnpike as they run out of power. There are simply not enough charging stations to charge the cars, and police monitoring the available chargers are limiting drivers to 15 minutes. Chargers are shutting down as water shorts out the charging heads on the cars. The electric cars are turning off their air-conditioners to preserve their remaining charge.

You are stuck in a traffic jam all night with the storm headed right at you. No battery, no A/C, no windshield-wipers, no GPS. All that you can do is call 911 and hope for help, but they can't because all of the roads are blocked with stalled electric vehicles. The new electric police and EMT vehicles mandated by President Cortez soon are out of juice. The wind is increasing. Then Florida Power and Light turns off the grid as power lines come down.

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To: maddog55

Sweet, surf’s up!


61 posted on 01/09/2022 11:25:52 AM PST by EEGator
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To: setter

“People in hurricane alley know the drill.”

Many people in hurricane alley don’t even have a gallon of water saved.


62 posted on 01/09/2022 11:26:37 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: bramps

“What does any of that have to do with the fact that you called the article stupid and you didn’t even read it?”

I read the article. Doom and gloom article to give the base a hard on.

Mercedes is going 100% EV by 2030. I am sure those smart Germans have figured out all the repercusions and issues and plan on addressing them.
Yes 100%.

As I said the free market will prevail.


63 posted on 01/09/2022 11:28:52 AM PST by setter
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To: setter
The free market will prevail and come through.

Yeah, this "free market" will be the government hiking gasoline taxes and taxes on ICE vehicles to the point where it will be cheaper to get an EV.

64 posted on 01/09/2022 11:29:55 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: rktman

It could be worse; China could decide to explode an EMP with devastating effect on all electric vehicles and wind turbines and people demand the use of fossil fuels again and Greta start wagging her tongue and index finger. Oh, the horror.


65 posted on 01/09/2022 11:32:35 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: setter
Germans makes lots of bad engineering choices. WWII is full of them.

I am totally oK with EV's being produced, because there are definitely situations where they make sense. But, sorry, there is no way MB's decision is based only on sound engineering.

In the same way that I can see there are appropriate uses for EV's, any person arguing in good faith has to acknowledge that IC vehicles ain't going away, unless govt interferes in the marketplace enough to force it.

If you don't realize that's what's happening, well, I can't help you.

66 posted on 01/09/2022 11:33:20 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: setter

LOL. “Free market?!” You must be a troll.


67 posted on 01/09/2022 11:35:00 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: palmer

If you are driving in Florida during hurricane season and you have A/C, you will be using it, even if you are stuck in bumper to bumper traffic on I-95 trying to escape a hurricane. You had better hope that EV technology has improved to the point that yourcar will have the battery life to allow it.


68 posted on 01/09/2022 11:37:46 AM PST by yawningotter
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To: Revel
"It is September 4, 2035, in Miami and a large Cat. 5 hurricane is offshore headed straight for the city."

Just think how much wind power that will create!!!

69 posted on 01/09/2022 11:42:01 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: rktman

This is accurate. The disaster is forseeable. A no-brainer prediction. Guaranteed death on the highways. Anyone can foresee the consequences.

You had better have a portable toilet, water, food, a flashlight, and plenty of blankets in your car when they finally force all gasoline-powered vehicles off the road. It is their intention to do so.

This WILL happen because the people in power want it (they will be protected in their gas-powered, armored cars) and because the public will not pay attention until they are the ones in the cold, dark piece of metal freezing to death, stuck on the highway.


70 posted on 01/09/2022 11:42:24 AM PST by I want the USA back (Government is to be feared much more than the chicom virus.)
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To: setter

“A diesel 4x4 extended cab will set you back $75-100k depending on options and this was before the prices went up the last few years”

How much for an electric 4X4 extended cab?


71 posted on 01/09/2022 11:43:10 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: setter

I know you probably own Tesla stock and just talking your book, but you need better material.


72 posted on 01/09/2022 11:43:54 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: setter

10 years from now 1/2 the cars on the highway or more will be electric and most of the challenges will have been solved by the free market.

I’ve got $10,000 that says you’re wrong about that.


73 posted on 01/09/2022 11:44:49 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

“LOL. “Free market?!” You must be a troll.”

Ev technology is rapidly changing every year due to the free market.

As I mentioened a few day ago it is the car co’s pushing for EV’s not the gov’t

Only a 1/3 of the labor to produce, 1/2 the parts. EV motors have minimum parts-only one moving part.

Car co’s have said they will save tens of billions of in warranty work. No more complicated fuel, ignition, cooling, engine, trans issues to deal with.

75% of the current techs are going to be out of a job.

Ev’s a re all about minimizing labor cost and maximixing profit not the environment. Large corporations are what control the agenda in this country not the politicians.

Instead of being uniformed why don’t you do some serious research other than American Thinker and Gateway pundit why car co’s are the ones pushing for EV’s.


74 posted on 01/09/2022 11:44:52 AM PST by setter
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To: setter

If EVs had been sold in a free market all this time they wouldn’t exist.


75 posted on 01/09/2022 11:49:11 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: rktman

In the first scenario, it’s interesting this dynamic wasn’t
mentioned. When I’m in traffic, I’m not using much electricity.
I only use it when I move. ICE vehicles keep their engine on,
because traffic is generally ebbing forward every few moments.
Idling and moving forward results in a lot of gas being burned
off without much movement at all. In this scenario, an ICE vehicle
could be getting less than a mile per gallon. I won’t be moving
less than 4 miles per kilowatt.

ICE vehicles don’t run out of gas in those types of situations?
LOL

If the power is turned off, to prevent harm or danger with the
electrical grid, how long will fuel pumps be running?

Folks, electric cars are not going away. Hissing and moaning
about it isn’t going to stop them.

If you don’t think one is good for your needs, that’s obviously
fine. I’m certainly not pushing to have ICE vehicles outlawed.
If people want ICE cars, that’s great. If people want to use electric
vehicles, that’s fine.

In my mind, there’s no reason to hate either type of vehicle.
I have an ICE vehicle for longer trips.

I’m working to resolve that issue.


76 posted on 01/09/2022 11:50:24 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegience to the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: setter
LOL, you don't know shit about manufacturing. There's a reason why IC vehicles are as relaible as they are. Pretty sure you don't know why, and why it matters. I work in manufacturing, ironically enough for a German compnay. Just took in a shipment of 50 tons of steel yesterday.

Thanks for taking the bait; you proved you are not arguing in good faith. And thanks for the implicit admission that large corporations don't care about customers, only profit.

77 posted on 01/09/2022 11:52:27 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“If EVs had been sold in a free market all this time they wouldn’t exist.”

Ford has 200,000+ preorders from customers for the new Ford Lightning. Are people being forced to buy them?

Teslas sold 495k in 2020, 900k Evs in 2021 in 2021 and ccould have sold another 200,00 were it not for supply chain issues.

There is currently more demand for EV’s than supply with most companies.

This all sounds like free market to me. No one is forcing people to buy them.


78 posted on 01/09/2022 11:55:34 AM PST by setter
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To: DoughtyOne

Electric cars are a problem not because they are electric but because they are being forced into the market by the government. They cost more to operate than ICE cars and are more harmful to the environment than ICE autos.


79 posted on 01/09/2022 11:55:57 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: setter

And the Chinese control 80% of the lithium needed to make the batteries. Are they just going to give it to Audi so they can make EVs?

As for the German’s and engine else that wants to go that route, it’s simple. They’ll use their Leftist leadership to convince the Leftist in government to mandate whatever they need. A bunch of phony environmentalists all wrapped up.

And your response doesn’t address the premise of the article.

Musk, himself, has said that there’s no way to produce enough electricity to support your pipe dream.

On a side note, if a restaurant chain puts them in, who is paying for the charge? Does the EV owner tell the manager or waiter/waitress that they’re charging their Tesla and a surcharge gets added to their bill? Or is it more likely that the company raises prices a little. Just enough that no one notices or complains. They just blame the supply chain for that and then every customer gets to pay for someone charging their car out back.

I don’t think we’ll ever see an EV owner float someone $5-10 to fill up their F150, will we?


80 posted on 01/09/2022 11:56:11 AM PST by qaz123
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