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Dear Conservatives, Elon Musk is Not Your Friend: He is a climate change radical who partners with the government at every turn to enrich himself
American Thinker ^ | 12/28/2021 | Bode Lang

Posted on 12/28/2021 8:33:17 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Conservatives have enjoyed Elon Musk's behavior in recent weeks, blasting Elizabeth Warren, opposing lockdowns, and insulting CNN, but the giddiness spewing from conservatives about Musk is foolish.

To those embracing Elon Musk's political conversion, remember that Musk has been one of the most prominent advocates of the continuous scam known as climate change.  Like Bill Gates and Al Gore, Musk is an extremely wealthy man who fattens his own pockets through propagating climate change.  And like those other rich guys, Musk doesn't refrain from using private jets to fly around the world to save it.

In 2018, Elon Musk reportedly donated $6 Million to the Sierra Club while writing, "Thank you for fighting climate change. This affects every living creature on earth."  Once merely an environmental advocacy group, the Sierra Club has since evolved to promote other left-wing issues from pushing for mass immigration and abortion

Musk also has no reservations about whispering sweet-nothings to communists by praising China as "more responsible" than the U.S. and said that Chinese government officials could "possibly" be "more responsible" for their citizen's happiness than America is.

In May, Musk tweeted a call for a Carbon Tax and spoke with the Biden administration about implementing it.  Musk demanding the government to take money from taxpayers should come as no surprise because Musk's companies received at least $4.9 billion in government subsidies – as of 2015!  Therein lies perhaps Musk's most incredible skill: enriching himself with the government's help. 

While government subsidies are not exclusive to one industry, what sets Elon Musk apart is not only his ability to exploit taxpayers but to use government guns to extort his competitors through "regulatory credits."


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanstinker; bidenfansonfr; bodelang; climatechange; conservatives; elonmusk; liar; solarcity; spacex; tesla; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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To: dfwgator

In fact it’s cold as hell.


121 posted on 12/28/2021 4:22:14 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: _Jim

Still, it looks fake.

People with real shit don’t use fake powerpoints that talk about money.

They build prototypes and go viral youTube and the money comes to them... unless they are PHD funding whores, then its all about the funding via ppt, because this is “technology that needs to be investigated”.


122 posted on 12/28/2021 7:31:13 PM PST by UNGN
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To: Mr. K
You have got a chip on your shoulder. I didn't say anything negative about Musk. You on the other hand said that he was terrible to work for then claimed that I was the one who said it. I was only complimentary to him in this thread. Do you have a mental condition or are you just stupid? Here are my posts:

#14

I think that it is impressive that he got out of South Africa before it was turned into a living hell and then became the richest man in the world through his own foresight, intuition, perseverance and salesmanship. He is an American success story. It is too bad that much of his success is due to the funneling of taxpayer funds his direction. But it seems like more than just being at the right place at the right time.

He didn't start out with all the connections and support that previous richest men in the world such as Bill Gates had. He basically was a refugee.

#77
I have gotten in some fights with people here who basically worship Elon and are willing to overlook anything. I admire, but do not worship him.

My niece's husband gave up a very lucrative job at an oil refinery to go to work for Tesla. He did this because he was a great admirer of Elon Musk and wanted to work in one of his companies. It was a big mistake. He eventually had to quit and they are now living in a travel trailer next to his mother's house while he is working any job that he can get.

My nephue-in-law is a bright guy and I am sure all will turn out well for him, but it was a lesson learned. Don't change careers to follow one of the big shots that you think is great. It probably won't turn out that well for you.

In Post #83 you said,

“There must be more to the story than “he eventually had to quit” that explains why it is so bad to work for Musk.”

In Post #93 I responded,

There certainly is, but I don't feel like being berated again over something that doesn't matter very much to me.

Then you said in Post #97
“Then your comment about Elon Musk being terrible to work for lacks any context.”

You are a laugh and a half. I never said that Elon Musk was “terrible to work for”. You did! I had nothing but positive things to say about Elon Musk in my posts. I assume that because you are a rabid fan boy anything less than total hero worship is not good enough.

Of course, my niece's husband is not the first person to have difficulties working at Tesla. There are thousands of links to firsthand accounts in the media filled with details that you probably should consider. Here are just a few.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ex-tesla-employees-reveal-the-worst-parts-of-working-there-2019-9

https://abc7news.com/better-bay-area-building-a-tesla-iteam/5708234/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2019/03/01/tesla-safety-violations-dwarf-big-us-auto-plants-in-aftermath-of-musks-model-3-push/?sh=559b305c54ce

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jun/13/tesla-workers-pay-price-elon-musk-failed-promises

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/18/tesla-workers-factory-conditions-elon-musk

https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/09/tesla-worker-long-hours-low-pay-and-unsafe-conditions/

https://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-tesla-workplace-safety-20170524-story.html

https://news.yahoo.com/teslas-solar-division-asks-employees-110000879.html

I am kind of making a wild guess that this last one could be related to your current and previous comments to me. Either that or you are just crazy.

123 posted on 12/28/2021 8:17:47 PM PST by fireman15
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To: Mr. K
If you can't say any reason he “eventually had to quit” then your contention that Musk is terrible is a gratuitous assertion.

That which can be argued without evidence can equally be dismissed without evidence.

I never made any “contentions”... you did!

124 posted on 12/28/2021 8:49:14 PM PST by fireman15
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To: _Jim
"I post very little on any forum on this subject, and usually to correct ‘incorrect’ facts as stated by others."

I wasn't referring to the amount you post. I was referring to the incivility that you do so with. As demonstrated on this thread.

Mills could have proven conclusively that his "hydrino" was a thing simply by submitting the supposed "hydrino compounds" he showed in photos back in the "Black Light Power" era to a few independent chemical analysis labs and having Infrared and NMR spectra run. The molecular spectra would have been completely different from any compounds of the stated elemental formulae.

125 posted on 12/29/2021 4:02:10 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: SmokingJoe

Then you had better start building breeder reactors and lots of them.


126 posted on 12/29/2021 4:22:01 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Wonder Warthog

re: “Mills could have proven conclusively that his “hydrino” was a thing simply by submitting the supposed “hydrino compounds” he showed in photos back in the “Black Light Power” era to a few independent chemical analysis labs”

You are so POORLY informed, I don’t know how you draw breath some days.

You OBVIOUSLY know NOTING of the controversy involving Robert Park of of the almighty American “APS” and his denigrating of Mills SUCH THAT no lab will test his Hydrino LET ALONE comment on it. This “submission” has been done with a few labs, but again, YOU DON’T KNOW THAT.

You are SO uninformed ...

Here are a FEW more things you are HIGHLY uninformed on (because you are UNWILLING to apply yourself to such matters, OR you simply CANNOT comprehend on an intellectual basis):

1. He successfully predicted the acceleration of the universe’s expansion.

2. His theory neatly explains what Dark Matter is, a nonradiating, smaller form of hydrogen.

3. Observations found intense ultraviolet “squiggles” in the solar corona, consistent with Mills’ belief that hydrino reactions produce the high coronal temperature. Also, certain cosmic radiation frequencies correspond to theoretical hydrino reactions.

4. Explains sub-atomic physics without resorting to indeterminancy principle. Explains QM’s arbitrary constants as the speed of light of the electron orbitsphere as it approaches the hydrogen nucleus.

5.Mills’ experimental work followed his theory’s prediction that a hydrogen’s electron orbitsphere can be catalyzed to a lower-energy position closer to the nucleus, through resonant energy transfer. Sporadic results from so-called Cold Fusion research were probably due to hydrino formation.

6. Mills developed software (Millsian) that produces closed-form, exact solutions for molecular bonds through the first eighteen or so of elements on the table of elements. Several thousand researchers now use the software.

7. From Mills’ first announcement twenty-five years ago, he’s attracted significant individuals to his board of directors, and ample private funding. Two early board members were tasked with investigating his work, and decided his discovery was genuine.

8. Mills’ company, Brilliant Light Power, is now on its fifth generation of design concept for a generator that converts hydrogen to an intensely bright plasma. A video of a January 28 demonstration of the current model is available on the company’s website, as are validation reports of an earlier fuel-cell. Electrical Power from Water

9. Hostile editors at Wikipedia have blocked submissions citing replications of Mills work. Followers have built their own Wikia page at BrilliantLightPower Wiki


127 posted on 12/29/2021 11:22:09 AM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: UNGN

re: “Still, it looks fake.”

AS fake as you?

No.

You’re bot as far as I concerned, a know-nothing commenting on a subject you know ZILCH about. To address you further is as if ‘to address a dog about the subject of physics’.


128 posted on 12/29/2021 11:25:15 AM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: _Jim

I’m a chemist. I understand chemistry. He could have proved his hydrino exactly as I described. Take your long-winded incivil rants and stick them where the sun don’t shine....


129 posted on 12/29/2021 12:39:44 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Your: “I have spent 20+ years in the energy sector am a petroleum geologist first, Hydro geo and engineering was added by later degrees.”

I was reading your response to a shooting, re your Federal LEO work. Did you travel about, in land areas of Texas, where the energy sector caught your interest, and so, you pursued that work, leaving LEO work behind?

I am asking, because I wondered what caught your eye and motivated your interest in Oil & Gas? (You have written a lot about the energy sector.)

Your writing at FR, is often intense (or, compact), and I struggle to break your writing down, into individual sentences, and the s-l-o-w-l-y study those. Because of that, my not being a genius, I have become a student of your writing in general.

Yet I rarely stumble onto your comments, here at FR; and your latest, I have combined, a bit, because you indicate something re your past experience, and perhaps the evolution of your studies in life.

This year, I have been trying (struggling) to study what people are expressing. Some of my own motivation, is the surprising number of people whom I meet, who are VERY concerned about the chaos “out there” where most people find that person-to-person communications, in a civil way, are breaking down.

For example, the patience to listen.

I am trying to be a better listener, and when I somehow succeed, I find that the person speaking, has a lot to say about the complexities in their life, that are confounding them and causing them to lose more than the usual amount of lost sleep.

All credit goes to Jesus, for my attempts to be gentle and kind with people, and also trying to pass along what info I stumble across.

Sometimes, I try to help young people who are lost - who are themselves, trying to make sense of the mess that the world is becoming, as they also try to find their way. I find smart young people, who are relatively much most lost, now, in contrast to when there were more economic opportunities, much better personal conduct among individuals, and actually, a lot less of the terrain being littered by drugs and mayhem.

So, I am curious to know what motivated your pursuing Oil & Gas.

Tx in advance - if you have the time.


130 posted on 12/29/2021 2:37:57 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: _Jim

If the Scientist wants to look like he knows what he talking about, he needs to distance himself from the “Brilliant” people that makde that Shyster powerpoint slide.

If you want to be credible, avoid incredible claims made via PowerPoint. Its Not a good look.

Actual scientists distance themselves from shysters. Its why AGW true believers and Faucites are politicians and not scientists.


131 posted on 12/29/2021 3:04:59 PM PST by UNGN
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To: fireman15

Ummmm... yes you did. You implied Elon musk was horrible to work for, for reasons involving your relative, but didn’t say what those reasons were.


132 posted on 12/29/2021 4:04:07 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: fireman15

I’m sorry... I didn’t read the rest of your posts. I didn’t understand that you’re an a**hole.


133 posted on 12/29/2021 4:05:30 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: All

Have you Musk haters been listening to Oil/Gas company CEOs on CNBC Financial? They are carbon capturing and promising to kill their industry by 2050.

Elon Musk is not a purist ideologue, he is a business man and a damn good one.

Same thing goes for the woke CEOs at Chevron, Exxon etc etc.


134 posted on 12/29/2021 4:22:54 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: UNGN

re: “If the Scientist wants to look like he knows what he talking about, he needs to distance himself from the “Brilliant” people that makde that Shyster powerpoint slide.”

You don’t know what you’re talking about; Mills’ operation is funded as required and that was an Overview presentation (NOT the theory presentation). You don’t know squat about this business or this development nor do you know who sits on the board.

Chances are, its not that you won’t understand this tech, but its that you can’t, its beyond you. I would be quite surprised if you ever developed a sense of what this tech involves.

You’re better off staying on the sidelines, waiting for bubble-packed shrink-wrapped product to arrive at your local Walmart and ‘mining’ for a few bitcoins on the side.


135 posted on 12/29/2021 8:41:37 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: Mr. K

You are nothing but a very nasty bully. I said nothing negative about your idol Elon. There is something seriously wrong with you.


136 posted on 12/29/2021 8:52:20 PM PST by fireman15
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To: Wonder Warthog

re: “He could have proved his hydrino exactly as I described.”

Would you know how to ‘read areport’ of that type if it were handed to you.

There are something like THIRTY (30) in-depth analytical reports examining the Hydrino; Do you think you could get through one? Do you know any calorimetry or spectroscopy?

And as I wrote before, most posters are too lazy to investigate any of this. Ans as I wrote before, boilers in the 250 kW range are being tested, readied for field trials; Does ANY of this make into your head? DO YOU KNOW WHAT A BOILER IS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT 250 kW REPRESENTS IN THIS KIND OF APPLICATION? We’re no longer in the 5 to 10 W on-the-bench lab curiosities.


137 posted on 12/29/2021 8:54:27 PM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: Mr. K

Seems Musk can be a real hard ass to work for. But he’s also trying to change the foundations of humanity. That’s never going to be an easy ride.


138 posted on 12/29/2021 8:55:04 PM PST by Houserino
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To: SeekAndFind

C O N- GRESS

🚽


139 posted on 12/29/2021 8:56:14 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: SeekAndFind

I saw a recent interview with him.

Though he believes in human-caused climate change, he’s skeptical that great harm will result.

His deeper concerns are that while we still have an economy run on fossil fuels, we should bootstrap to a renewable energy economy while we still have enough fossill fuels to do it easily and not too abruptly. He says readily that one big problem is we don’t have the grid currently to run an all-electric, all-renewable economy. His other deeper concern is that humanity become a space-faring, multi world species, to forestall extinction from the possible loss of earth.

I offer no opinion here, but these two concerns aren’t exactly or even left-wing.


140 posted on 12/29/2021 9:12:15 PM PST by sitetest (Professional patient. No longer mostly dead. Again. It's getting to be a habit.)
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