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Heilemann: "30 Million People Right Now Are Ready To Take Up Arms" For Donald Trump
Real Clear Politics ^ | 12/12/21

Posted on 12/12/2021 3:10:11 PM PST by BusterDog

A visibly frightened John Heilemann warned Sunday on NBC's "Meet The Press" that former President Trump will be in a stronger position to launch a "coup" in 2024 than he was in 2020 during a discussion about Barton Gellman's piece in The Atlantic titled "Trump's Next Coup Has Already Begun."

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To: BusterDog

BFL


141 posted on 12/13/2021 3:23:53 AM PST by Sparky21555 (The buck stops over there.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Of course things would have to go much further than they are now.
But one cannot ever rule out that possibility.


142 posted on 12/13/2021 5:43:02 AM PST by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yesterday I commented on this article: https://whowhatwhy.org/cartoon/and-the-winner-is-trump-a-look-at-the-2032-election/?unapproved=53146&moderation-hash=fdbb29b2280e7d0a3d6a15b406e31b0a#comment-53146 ‘And the Winner Is Trump’ — A Look at the 2032 Election

They deleted my comment. You should really take a look at it and the comments they DID allow. They’re like “OMG THERE’S GOING TO BE A CIVIL WAR AND WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE!” I mean, their guy supposedly won, and they’re still vapor-locking about things that might happen and absolutely ignoring things that might, you know, actually get them killed.

Here’s my comment that got deleted, by the way:

Wow, ChoMoeJoe Biden is such a great president! He stands for Democracy! (And making deals with China and Russia! And crippling the USA’s major industries! And turning over Bagram AFB to the Taliban after getting US Marines killed in an easily-preventable massacre! And releasing MILLIONS of illegal aliens into the US with a resulting crime wave! Over the last year crime in the US has basically gone out of control but it’s all Trump’s fault!)

Did I mention that Joe MOLESTS CHILDREN ON CAMERA??? Isn’t that RAD???!!!! Those little sluts were asking for it.

Oh, haha, how could I forget this stupid “pandemic” that has cost millions of Americans - and all around the globe - their jobs, businesses, livelihoods? Trump’s common-sense travel ban halted the progress of the SARS-CoV2 virus but good old Democracy Man, ChoMoeJoe, has fixed that. Say goodbye to Grandma and Grandpa. They were just in the way. (Of course Trump is infecting all these great patriots - like ChoMoeJoe and Chris Christie - with SARS on purpose because he’s just that evil!)

Yeah, millions of Americans aren’t pi$$ed about having their votes stolen from them. We’re totally cool with skyrocketing crime, losing our jobs, and constant rioting with cops standing by doing absolutely nothing about it.

All joking aside, your version of “democracy” is actually communism. Like in Venezuela, where voters were tricked into voting for a compassionate communist and that was like the last time their votes counted for anything. They can vote all they want now! The same crap socialists will stay in office. Forever! Democracy! Poverty! And a boot on your neck. Forever.

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(I wonder why they didn’t like my comment?)


143 posted on 12/13/2021 6:04:57 AM PST by Scarlett156 (I have a new broom. I feel like a queen! Get outta my way, losers! *sweeps* )
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To: tennmountainman
Well, I didn't. I was disagreeing with the idea that Trump already has 30 million+ ready to march for him.

I did think it very disingenuous that Heilman took those poll results to equate to actual right-wing boots on the ground. I'm quite sure that if a poll would have been taken after the 2016 election, you would have had an even higher percentage of people respond that Trump was not legitimately elected, and that violence would be justified to put Hillary in office.

The only difference is that the leftist press didn't bother asking that question after the 2016 election because the answers wouldn't fit their narrative.

144 posted on 12/13/2021 6:26:23 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: All

“if by ‘coup’ he means Devolution.”

I’d encourage all FReepers to read:

https://patelpatriot.substack.com

I have and find it a well explained theory, but antithetical to the United States and the U.S. Constitution.


145 posted on 12/13/2021 6:26:57 AM PST by Fury
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To: Bshaw
When he comes back, and Trump will come back, and he will reclaim that glory with a vengeance.

So is President Trump more concerned with glory? Is that why he ran for President? Glory?

146 posted on 12/13/2021 6:28:18 AM PST by Fury
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To: Fury

” So is President Trump more concerned with glory? Is that why he ran for President? Glory?”

No, glory is what was stolen not only from Trump, but from we the people who elected him to that office twice and all of posterity.

The glory stolen from us is:

Sound policies on our border that stop drugs, human and child sex trafficking from pouring into our country.

The glory stolen is when a geriatric-incompetent heads an abysmal withdrawal from Afghanistan that will stain our nation’s reputation for eternity as our soldiers were slaughtered and $85 billion in top military hardware was handed to a terrorist state.

The glory stolen is the trillions in woke-spending that will bankrupt our nation and its resulting generations who will find their labor produces anemic wealth.

The glory stolen is the economic juggernaut that was the United States economy and our global energy dominance under Trump’s leadership.

The glory stolen is the freedoms that are being lost as a tyrannical government imposes mask and vaccine mandates, lockdowns and travel restrictions for a virus that is 99.97% survivable for all but the weak and elderly.

That glory was stolen by Biden, the DNC, Mark Zuckerberg, Dominion voting systems, Ruby Freeman and her vote-scanning posse, a corrupt media, feckless republicans like Pence, Raffensperger, McConnel, and then fools such as yourself who want to get into arguments over words and concepts that you do not understand, while the world collapses around you.

Elections have consequences, stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.


147 posted on 12/13/2021 7:08:19 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Fury

I thought that perhaps the definition of glory might help you as you attempt to follow along and understand:

Glory: [noun] praise, honor, or distinction extended by common consent : renown. worshipful praise, honor, and thanksgiving.


148 posted on 12/13/2021 7:16:23 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Bshaw; Fury
This definition of "glory" you just provided doesn't seem to fit with things like "sound policies on our border", as you used in the previous post. Sound border policies are just...good policy, not "praise, honor, or distinction extended by common consent : renown. worshipful praise, honor, and thanksgiving" as you just defined the meaning of the word.

It's as if you are changing the definition of the word to suit whatever argument you are making at the time.

149 posted on 12/13/2021 7:43:12 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: BusterDog

30 million is likely conservative. 😏


150 posted on 12/13/2021 7:47:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Leaning Right

And the backhoe just had a tune up.


151 posted on 12/13/2021 7:48:17 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: BusterDog

A visibly frightened John Heilemann checks for pods in the basement he thinks the UFO reports are real.


152 posted on 12/13/2021 7:49:25 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“It’s as if you are changing the definition of the word to suit whatever argument you are making at the time.”

Ummm, that’s Merriam Webster’s definition of glory, not mine. My focus is on the “common consent”. You know, all of which extends from legitimate elections, the consent of the governed, and the blessing that flow therefrom.

Anyhow, thank you for your thoughtful and intelligent participation in the conversation.


153 posted on 12/13/2021 7:51:56 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: BusterDog
Just to provide some balance, a 2018 poll showed that 66 percent of Democrats believed that Trump was illegitimately elected due to Russian tampering with vote tallies. For some reason, Heilman didn't think that was a dangerous then.

https://theweek.com/articles/950236/democrats-arent-innocent-bystanders

A 2020 poll showed that a willingness to resort to violence to achieve political ends was basically equal between voters within the two parties. Heilman didn't care then either.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/01/political-violence-424157

I'll be curious to see if the leftist media does a similar poll after the 2022 midterms, and whether the results will be considered a "threat to democracy" then as well.

154 posted on 12/13/2021 8:00:41 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Bshaw

I’m not disputing your definition of glory, which I think is correct. I was disputing your use of the word “glory” in the prior post as you applied to things like sound border policy.


155 posted on 12/13/2021 8:02:02 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Re: 149 - Agreed.


156 posted on 12/13/2021 8:11:03 AM PST by Fury
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To: BusterDog
"Heilemann: "30 Million People Right Now Are Ready To Take Up Arms" For Donald Trump"

That 30 Million would have an even larger number of camp followers.
157 posted on 12/13/2021 8:52:21 AM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: Artemis Webb

“So far this thread seems evenly divided between the incredulous and the stupid.”

Like I tell people - if you’re ‘fraid, stay home.


158 posted on 12/13/2021 10:31:13 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Fury

“A well explained theory” is a pretty generous characterization of what lies behind that link. I think “unhinged moonbattery” would be a fairer description.


159 posted on 12/13/2021 11:31:39 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: The Pack Knight
“A well explained theory” is a pretty generous characterization of what lies behind that link. I think “unhinged moonbattery” would be a fairer description.

It takes so many pieces of information and attempts to tie them together into a coherent form. I don't think it works - at all.

160 posted on 12/13/2021 11:39:40 AM PST by Fury
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