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Pearl Harbor: What If Japan Never Attacked?
1945 ^ | 12/7/21 | Robert Farley

Posted on 12/07/2021 9:26:40 AM PST by MAGA2017

What if Japan had not attacked Pearl Harbor eighty years ago today?

The attack is today regarded as an enormous tactical success, but a strategic failure. Several older battleships were damaged or destroyed, but the treachery of the attack spurred the United States to fully mobilize for war and to pursue that war with a vengeful fury. The attack also pushed the United States to adopt innovative tactics that would quickly overturn Japanese advantages in air and naval technology. What other military options did Japan have besides an attack on Pearl Harbor?

It would have been extremely difficult for Japan to avoid attacking the United States in the context of a general offensive into Southeast Asia. While Washington had stopped short of making an ironclad security guarantee to British and Dutch possessions in Asia, it had made clear to Tokyo that it did not welcome further aggression. The US had cut Japan off from steel and oil, putting tremendous economic pressure on the Japanese war machine.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 1941; hawaii; japan; pearlharbor; worldwareleven
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1 posted on 12/07/2021 9:26:40 AM PST by MAGA2017
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To: MAGA2017

What if we could go back intime and kill FDR when he was a baby?


2 posted on 12/07/2021 9:27:25 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: MAGA2017

They could have obtained a much stronger hegemony in the regions, with access to oil and strategic materials, if they had left American soil & territories alone. America was isolationist at the time.


3 posted on 12/07/2021 9:28:58 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: BenLurkin

What if Superman worked for the Nazis?

Hitler: You smothered the bomb with your body, and you’re not even bleeding! Who are you?

Uberman: I am.. Uberman! I have superhuman powers, and Ifight for untruth, injustice, and the Nazi way! And I have X-ray vision!

Lois Laneoff: X-ray vision? Can you see through my clothes?

Uberman: Ja! And through his, too. [ points at Jimmy Olstein ] He’s a Jew!

Jimmy Olstein: No! No, it’s not true! My parents were just very advanced in hygeine, that’s all..!

Hitler: Silence! Guard, take this Jew away!

Uberman: No need! I’ll drop him off at the camp on my vay to the Eastern front!


4 posted on 12/07/2021 9:29:36 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MAGA2017

What if Japan had followed up Pearl Harbor with an amphibious assault?


5 posted on 12/07/2021 9:30:26 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal. )
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To: dfwgator

DC actually did a comic where Superman landed in the Ukraine, and served the USSR, it was called Red Son.


6 posted on 12/07/2021 9:31:58 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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To: BenLurkin
What if we could go back intime and kill FDR when he was a baby?

Might have been stuck with "President Kingfish"

7 posted on 12/07/2021 9:32:51 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

I’d be surprised if they could even air that skit these days.


8 posted on 12/07/2021 9:34:41 AM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: MAGA2017

I disagree that it was an enormous tactical success for Japan. They missed the ships that they were specifically trying to hit, the carriers. In reality it was a tactical failure, a strategic failure, a moral and political failure.

Admiral Yamamoto told the Emperor they would have to march into Washington D.C. to defeat America, but no one believed him.


9 posted on 12/07/2021 9:36:15 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: larrytown

IIRC Al Franken played Jimmy Olstein.


10 posted on 12/07/2021 9:37:06 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MAGA2017

“What If?” is for children and Old People.....................


11 posted on 12/07/2021 9:37:26 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: dfwgator; cowboyusa
Everybody knows Superman was a commie.



12 posted on 12/07/2021 9:37:43 AM PST by Bratch
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To: Red Badger

As Dandy Don said:

If ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’ were candy and nuts
We’d all have a Merry Christmas


13 posted on 12/07/2021 9:38:16 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MAGA2017

Japan also attacked Malaya, Singapore, and Hong Kong; Philippines, Guam and Wake Island, all within the same seven hours. It is historically weak to just focus on a speculation about Pearl Harbor in isolation..
If you want to change the story and ask what if they didn’t attack any of those possessions, then we might not have had the War in the Pacific. But they did, and we did.


14 posted on 12/07/2021 9:38:48 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: MAGA2017

I like to know what would America had done if the Big Island had flip over during the attack?


15 posted on 12/07/2021 9:39:47 AM PST by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: Bratch

Ironically “Stalin” in Russian means “Man of Steel”


16 posted on 12/07/2021 9:39:58 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MAGA2017

Without the Pearl Harbor attack the American public would have never stood still for declaring war on Japan if Japan had invaded Britain’s and Holland’s holdings in the far east. The Japanese were incredibly short-sighted in carrying out a sneak attack. They stood no chance in fighting the USA. None. And they managed to do the one thing that would galvanize the American public for war. Idiots.


17 posted on 12/07/2021 9:40:57 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: MAGA2017

I just posted the same thing on the other thread.

Japan miscalculated the American response and in hindsight, had Japan continued their conquests in a piecemeal fashion they would have achieved most of their goals without provoking such a total response.

The Brits were in no position to defend their colonies in the Pacific with the situation at home.


18 posted on 12/07/2021 9:41:04 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: dfwgator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izh-j8KUYjs


19 posted on 12/07/2021 9:41:22 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: MAGA2017

Fascinating question. In December of 1941, Hitler’s Operation Barbarossa had German troops on the verge of taking Moscow and Stalingrad. With the Japanese attack, and their preoccupation with America, the Soviet Union was free to move troops from the East, where they were protecting against Japan, to Moscow & Stalingrad. These Cossacks were not only fierce fighters, but also skilled winter soldiers. Hitler was furious as they turned the tide in favor of the Russians.


20 posted on 12/07/2021 9:41:48 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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