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Salvation Army withdraws guide that asks white supporters to apologize for their race
Just The News ^ | 11/29/21 | Sophie Mann

Posted on 11/29/2021 1:18:44 PM PST by Wilderness Conservative

The Salvation Army has withdrawn its controversial "Let's Talk About ... Racism" guide following criticism and donor backlash over the text that asked white supporters of the charity group to deliver "sincere" apologies for their race and the past sins of the Church.

As a result of some of the guide's more extreme positions becoming public, donors and supporters across the country have been rescinding their support of the organization.

In a statement titled "The Salvation Army's Response to False Claims on the Topic of Racism," the 156-year-old organization denies that the purpose of the guide or subsequent discussions revolving around the guide were meant to tell anyone "how to think." However, the group has also opted to withdraw the guide for "appropriate review."

The group is perhaps best known for collecting coins and paper money in red kettles outside of stores during the Christmas holiday season with a member ringing a bell.

The statement, in part, also reads: "The Salvation Army occasionally publishes internal study guides on various complex topics to help foster positive conversations and grace-filled reflection among Salvationists. By openly discussing these issues, we always hope to encourage the development of a more thoughtful organization that is better positioned to support those in need. But no one is being told how to think. Period."

A few paragraphs later, it continues: "We have done our best to provide accurate information, but unfortunately, some have chosen to ignore those efforts. At the same time, International Headquarters realized that certain aspects of the guide may need to be clarified.

"Consequently, for both reasons, the International Social Justice Commission has now withdrawn the guide for appropriate review."


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To: Wilderness Conservative

Still looking for the part in the Bible that supports this crap. Even looked in the Book of Armaments....


181 posted on 11/29/2021 7:19:16 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: Little Pig

Ooooh, very good!


182 posted on 11/29/2021 7:19:41 PM PST by peggybac (My will is what I wanted. God's will is what I got.)
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To: CardeadInKy

“Tell your *racist* boss that I will never apologize for being White!!!”


183 posted on 11/29/2021 7:29:47 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Lazamataz

This was a good response by the Salvation Army. I hope people read it and reconsider.


I think you need to more carefully reread the details and look at how they would be applied. Those here at FR were aware that it was an internal document - but that does not negate the pretty substantial problem here. Also read some of the documents they haven’t yet pulled back. There are a lot of pretty indefensible things in the writings. Sure there are worse, but that they don’t see what exactly was wrong in what they were giving voice to is plenty bad.


184 posted on 11/29/2021 7:36:52 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: rxsid

Now the problem is, how do we get resources to those that they used to serve who still need them?


185 posted on 11/29/2021 7:41:41 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Albion Wilde

My Brother-in-Law as a young batchelor came home some fifty years ago to his apartment late on Christmas Eve to find the building surrounded by firefighters and his apartment, with all of his prized jazz vinyl collection destroyed, not to mention every single thing he owned. He was completely destitute on Christmas Eve, with only the clothes on his back. And it was the Salvation Army that gave him shelter, food, money, and clothes.

Then, around 30 years ago, I was working with a very elderly patient who had been in the Army in WWI and was wounded in action in France. He told me had spent nearly a year in the hospital near the front before he was well enough to travel, the Red Cross was there, but they made the wounded soldiers pay for everything...especially cigarettes. At the mention of the Red Cross, he had that expression of someone so angry that they looked as if they were going to spit on the ground. After all those years, he still held a grudge against the Red Cross because they made him pay for his cigarettes. Then, he spoke in glowing tones about The Salvation Army. They had not made them pay, they gave them the cigarettes for free.

Because of both of those stories told to me by people directly helped by the Salvation Army, my wife and I gave to them every year during the Christmas Season, and we both gave money to the Kettles.

That is why I feel sadness, and grief. I hate feeling this way towards them. But I am not going to be a party to giving money to an organization that fosters racially based practices that are at the heart of Critical Race Theory which they inflict on employees.


186 posted on 11/29/2021 8:42:00 PM PST by rlmorel (If the Biden Administration was only stupid or incompetent, some actions would benefit the USA.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

They were really stupid to do this. They may withdraw their program but the damage is done.

I MIGHT consider to renew my support IF and only IF:

1. They fire the couple who promoted the program
2. They apologise specifically to whites and ask them specifically to please renew their support and tell us they need our help.
3. They promise never to do anything as stupid as this again. Their mission statement and mission was complete without going social justice warrior.
4. Their CEO can KMA on the courthouse steps.

Their can get back to me just any time from now.


187 posted on 11/29/2021 10:26:56 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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To: ConservativeMind

Is that supposed to make it better??


188 posted on 11/30/2021 5:35:04 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: rlmorel

Grand parents Salvation Army Officers.

Salvation Army. Words have meanings.

That was then
This is now.

General Booth
Salvation. John 3


189 posted on 11/30/2021 5:43:03 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: Varsity Flight

Your grandparents were Salvation Army officers?

In your opinion, what would they think of this situation?


190 posted on 11/30/2021 5:45:59 PM PST by rlmorel (If the Biden Administration was only stupid or incompetent, some actions would benefit the USA.)
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To: woodbutcher1963; Wilderness Conservative; joshua c; volunbeer; Qui is ; BBQToadRibs2

I just got one of their letters asking for donations. I’ll be sure to donate them a piece of my very disgusted mind.

I’m also going to drop a note in everyone of their kettles that I run into - “get woke, go broke”

I’m sure a lot in this forum get the same letter - I suggest you do the same.

So many of these organizations give in to whoever they think will cause them the most pain - usually it’s the leftist activists - they’re very good at it. It’s high time our side makes these organizations feel even more pain. It’s the only thing they understand.


191 posted on 11/30/2021 5:47:45 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: rlmorel

Never would have happened in their time.
Grandma wouldn’t even allow cards in her home.

But it’s the End of the Age now.
All hypocrisy and evil are being exposed and brought into the open.

They would have served elsewhere.
Perhaps as local pastor. As my uncle their son in law.


192 posted on 11/30/2021 5:54:51 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: Varsity Flight

And the Son that relationship sets you free. Nothing lacking


193 posted on 11/30/2021 5:56:57 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Money talks…..


194 posted on 11/30/2021 6:01:22 PM PST by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers )
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To: aquila48

Agreed. It’s all about the money.

“No bucks, no Bucks Rodgers.”

~Gus Grissom / Fred Ward~
From the film “The Right Stuff”


195 posted on 11/30/2021 6:05:17 PM PST by Qui is (Biden spews and Harris swallows. )
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Too late. They are dead to me.


196 posted on 11/30/2021 6:06:06 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder. )
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To: Wilderness Conservative; Grampa Dave; BBQToadRibs2; Skywise; rightwingcrazy

“Consequently, for both reasons, the International Social Justice Commission has now withdrawn the guide for appropriate review.”

So, it’s not a retraction. They’re just going to do some camouflaging, put lipstick on this pig, to better bamboozle the public. Any time you see the words “social justice” you can be sure it’s “social injustice”

Unless they fire the wokesters and dismantle their “Social Justice Commission” who came up with this garbage and burn the garbage, they’re as good as gone.


197 posted on 11/30/2021 6:06:45 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: Varsity Flight

Thanks...I was curious.

I am in the process of reading the Bible, and the Old Testament fills me with foreboding.

I think of Sodom and Gomorrah. And I know I am far from the first one to have that come to mind. Can we still turn it around? I don’t know.

But I am going to turn it around for myself, and for my country if I have the opportunity. I just think it is worth it.


198 posted on 11/30/2021 6:07:15 PM PST by rlmorel (If the Biden Administration was only stupid or incompetent, some actions would benefit the USA.)
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To: rlmorel

Dear friends, although I was eager to write you about the salvation we share, I found it necessary to write, appealing to you to contend for the faith that was delivered to the saints once for all.
Jude 3

And. ..

Hebrews 11

Our mission here

Freedom!💫📖📖


199 posted on 11/30/2021 6:18:25 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: Varsity Flight

Thank you, Varsity Flight...:)


200 posted on 11/30/2021 6:26:51 PM PST by rlmorel (If the Biden Administration was only stupid or incompetent, some actions would benefit the USA.)
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